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Post by YankeeFan on Sept 30, 2022 14:34:23 GMT
Important story. Glad to see that the media on both sides of the pond recognizes the magnitude of this. In the art of blowing a repurposed press release out of proportion, you are a master. Look, I understand it's not fair when we call sport journalism the toy department, because it does not leave room below for business journalism, let alone entertainment journalism. So, I get that lots of business journalism is just rewriting press releases to fill space. But, even given that, an airline changing their uniform policy is not news. Occasionally, you'll see a mention, because an airline will enlist some top fashion designer, to ostensibly "design" a new uniform. What's funny to me in a case like this is how the media just can't help themselves and has to rush to cover it. I mean, absent the photos and video they put out, this is a non-story, that will likely effect a handful of people. But, it's "gender" news, and there's a huge appetite (in the media) for this, and there are reporters dedicated to the topic. So Virgin Atlantic spent a couple of dollars, and rolled tis out like catnip to an eager media. |
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Post by YankeeFan on Sept 30, 2022 14:37:38 GMT
This is great news. Hopefully the LGBTQIA2S+ community can enjoy this new version of the Wizard of Oz as much as the rest of us have enjoyed the classic version. The modern American’s burning desire to be offended is something to behold. I'm not sure who's offended. Like the flight attendant uniform policy story, it's funny to me. "We're going to make an LGBT+ Wizard of Oz!" and it's a story everywhere. And, there aren't any details. It's just a big deal, because they said LGBT. And, how to you work a character's sexuality into this storyline? Is the Tin Man going to drop a casual reference to an ex-boyfriend? It's just silly, because it's unnecessary to the story. |
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Post by Whitman on Sept 30, 2022 14:39:34 GMT
The modern American’s burning desire to be offended is something to behold. I'm not sure who's offended. Like the flight attendant uniform policy story, it's funny to me. "We're going to make an LGBT+ Wizard of Oz!" and it's a story everywhere. And, there aren't any details. It's just a big deal, because they said LGBT. And, how to you work a character's sexuality into this storyline? Is the Tin Man going to drop a casual reference to an ex-boyfriend? It's just silly, because it's unnecessary to the story. Plus, would someone think of the children? |
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Post by YankeeFan on Sept 30, 2022 14:45:54 GMT
The most striking member of the ads isn't even an employee, but rather is a "non-binary performer and activist". And, the media used straight publicity shots in their "news" stories, which should be a no-no. http://instagram.com/p/CjDOfi1orcG |
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Post by YankeeFan on Sept 30, 2022 15:08:23 GMT
I'm not sure who's offended. Like the flight attendant uniform policy story, it's funny to me. "We're going to make an LGBT+ Wizard of Oz!" and it's a story everywhere. And, there aren't any details. It's just a big deal, because they said LGBT. And, how to you work a character's sexuality into this storyline? Is the Tin Man going to drop a casual reference to an ex-boyfriend? It's just silly, because it's unnecessary to the story. Plus, would someone think of the children? I think gay storylines are fine for kids, if they can be well incorporated into a story. I've previously mentioned how much we liked the CBC/Netflix show Anne with an E (https://www.netflix.com/title/80136311), which is a telling of the Anne of Green Gables books. It addresses issues of sexism, classism, homophobia, and racism in a really good way, that led to good discussions with our daughter. The stories were good and engaging, and did not feel forced, or gratuitous. We're already looking forward to watching the series again, when she's a little older, as the lessons from it will be different, and better understood. When some here try to portray me as "against" any of this, I think I should remind you, that of all of us here, I'm the one living in a big, diverse, city, sending my daughter to an urban public school, where the language of instruction is Spanish. We interact with more diverse people in a week than most of you will in a year. My daughter takes circus lessons with a non-binary coach. Her school teacher was born in Mexico. We went out for Ramen in Chinatown on Wednesday, and waited for our table with, and then were sat next to, a lovely trio of trans women. We very much live in the modern, real world, by choice. I just don't think we need to fawn over people, and treat them as special for living their lives. I've always thought that kind of treatment infantilizes them, and "others" them, often as a way to make the person who was woke enough to notice feel good about themselves for noticing, and "accepting" them. I mean, good for you, but how about just treating everyone well, and not giving yourself and award for doing so, whether the person has different sexual preferences, gender identity, or political persuasion? |
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Post by TyWebb on Sept 30, 2022 15:20:35 GMT
In the art of blowing a repurposed press release out of proportion, you are a master. Look, I understand it's not fair when we call sport journalism the toy department, because it does not leave room below for business journalism, let alone entertainment journalism. So, I get that lots of business journalism is just rewriting press releases to fill space. But, even given that, an airline changing their uniform policy is not news. Occasionally, you'll see a mention, because an airline will enlist some top fashion designer, to ostensibly "design" a new uniform. What's funny to me in a case like this is how the media just can't help themselves and has to rush to cover it. I mean, absent the photos and video they put out, this is a non-story, that will likely effect a handful of people. But, it's "gender" news, and there's a huge appetite (in the media) for this, and there are reporters dedicated to the topic. So Virgin Atlantic spent a couple of dollars, and rolled tis out like catnip to an eager media. You're acting like news outlets dedicated resources and valuable real estate to this story, flying reporters from all over the country to get the inside scoop on this and blowing up their A1s. Look at where these stories are actually positioned on their webpages. I honestly can't even find these stories on NBCNews or WaPo. They re-purporsed a press release that may be of interest to a small subset of people and tweeted it out (which they pretty much do for every story). It was the literal least they could do for this. There was no "rush to cover it" from an "eager media." |
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Post by TyWebb on Sept 30, 2022 15:22:09 GMT
The modern American’s burning desire to be offended is something to behold. It's just silly, because it's unnecessary to the story. Tom Cruise banging Jennifer Connelly was unnecessary to the story in the new Top Gun movie. The outrage! |
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Post by YankeeFan on Sept 30, 2022 15:25:18 GMT
Look, I understand it's not fair when we call sport journalism the toy department, because it does not leave room below for business journalism, let alone entertainment journalism. So, I get that lots of business journalism is just rewriting press releases to fill space. Look at where these stories are actually positioned on their webpages. I honestly can't even find these stories on NBCNews or WaPo. They re-purporsed a press release that may be of interest to a small subset of people and tweeted it out (which they pretty much do for every story). It was the literal least they could do for this. There was no "rush to cover it" from an "eager media." No. Of course they're not. But, that almost makes it worse. They're trolling the PR Newswire for shit like this that they can repurpose for clicks (both affirming, and hate clicks). I'd much prefer to see an actual reported story that to see a slew of media companies, thoughtlessly amplify PR as news, just because it has some trans of LGBT angle. That's part of what makes it intellectually insulting. |
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Post by YankeeFan on Sept 30, 2022 15:28:06 GMT
It's just silly, because it's unnecessary to the story. Tom Cruise banging Jennifer Connelly was unnecessary to the story in the new Top Gun movie. The outrage! Love stories are forced into loads of movies. They really are often unnecessary, and gratuitous. (And, I think half of the time, it's so a pervy director can go through the casting process.) But, if they remake Top Gun, it would be weird to drop that part of the story. It's also weird to add an LGBT storyline to a movie that over 80-years-old, and is well known. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2022 15:29:16 GMT
I'm the one living in a big, diverse, city, sending my daughter to an urban public school, where the language of instruction is Spanish. We interact with more diverse people in a week than most of you will in a year. I live in an area as big and diverse as yours. My kids also go to public school and receive Spanish-language instruction. We also interact with and live among one of the most diverse populations in the country. We do this by design, so our kids, like your daughter, will grow up knowing that diversity and multiculturalism is normal, completely unlike how I grew up. But part of living in a diverse area is realizing that the population isn’t a faceless mob, but is made up of a ton of different cultures, sexual identities, etc. Why would we celebrate the faceless mob but not its individual components? |
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Post by TyWebb on Sept 30, 2022 15:32:24 GMT
You're acting like news outlets dedicated resources and valuable real estate to this story, flying reporters from all over the country to get the inside scoop on this and blowing up their A1s.Look at where these stories are actually positioned on their webpages. I honestly can't even find these stories on NBCNews or WaPo. They re-purporsed a press release that may be of interest to a small subset of people and tweeted it out (which they pretty much do for every story). It was the literal least they could do for this. There was no "rush to cover it" from an "eager media." No. Of course they're not. But, that almost makes it worse. They're trolling the PR Newswire for shit like this that they can repurpose for clicks (both affirming, and hate clicks). I'd much prefer to see an actual reported story that to see a slew of media companies, thoughtlessly amplify PR as news, just because it has some trans of LGBT angle. That's part of what makes it intellectually insulting. So is it a non-story, or is it a story that isn't being properly reported? And do you have an issue with all the other stories that are generated the same way to help fill the endless website newshole? |
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Post by TyWebb on Sept 30, 2022 15:35:25 GMT
Tom Cruise banging Jennifer Connelly was unnecessary to the story in the new Top Gun movie. The outrage! Love stories are forced into loads of movies. They really are often unnecessary, and gratuitous. (And, I think half of the time, it's so a pervy director can go through the casting process.) But, if they remake Top Gun, it would be weird to drop that part of the story. It's also weird to add an LGBT storyline to a movie that over 80-years-old, and is well known. What part of the story? Jennifer Connelly's character was barely mentioned in a throwaway one-liner in the first one. Is it that important that we know Maverick still fucks chicks? Why can't they stop shoving his straightness in our face? |
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Post by Whitman on Sept 30, 2022 15:46:09 GMT
Tom Cruise banging Jennifer Connelly was unnecessary to the story in the new Top Gun movie. The outrage! Love stories are forced into loads of movies. They really are often unnecessary, and gratuitous. (And, I think half of the time, it's so a pervy director can go through the casting process.) But, if they remake Top Gun, it would be weird to drop that part of the story. It's also weird to add an LGBT storyline to a movie that over 80-years-old, and is well known. I guess this hasn't been asked yet, but how in the world do you know that this isn't going to be relevant to the "storyline"? Are you under the impression that they are making a line-for-line, frame-for-frame re-make of the movie? Are you of the opinion that they are obligated to do so? Are there any straight couples in the original "Wizard of Oz"? OK, maybe now they are a gay couple. Who the hell cares? What is bothersome about this? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2022 16:21:49 GMT
It is of paramount importance that we protect the staunch heterosexuality of the lavish 1930s musical.
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Post by Vombatus on Sept 30, 2022 17:03:08 GMT
I don’t understand why nowadays fudgepacking has to be in everyone’s faces.
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