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Post by btexpress on Nov 15, 2018 15:29:27 GMT
Geez, YF, we talk about people "living in a bubble" all the time . . . even though we never actually see an actual bubble surrounding them.*** You're reaching just a tad on this one.
*** The Bubble Boy excluded
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Post by xanadu on Nov 15, 2018 15:30:48 GMT
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Post by xanadu on Nov 15, 2018 15:31:50 GMT
Hey, the Daily Caller's Jim Treacher loved cocoon too! dailycaller.com/2012/10/08/obama-team-is-pinning-debate-hopes-on-um-biden/Yes. Seriously.
Up until now, ol’ Joe has been an ugly caterpillar, repulsive and dismaying to all who beheld him. But now he’s gone into his cocoon and will soon emerge as a beautiful butterfly, as Daniel Halper at the Weekly Standard reports:
With just about a month until Election Day, Vice President Joe Biden is in the middle of taking nearly a week off the campaign trail. He will return to doing campaign events on Thursday, when he will debate Rep. Paul Ryan in the vice presidential debate…
For this weekend, the White House provided the following guidance: “The Vice President will be in Wilmington, Delaware. There are no public events scheduled.”
As for the next three days, Biden will remain in Delaware. “On Monday through Wednesday, the Vice President will be in Wilmington, Delaware. There are no public events scheduled.”
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 15:33:43 GMT
It's clear that this was the reporter's paraphrase distilling what multiple sources were telling him. I think it's a bit of an eye rolly turn of phrase, but YF has overplayed his hand in objecting to it.
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Post by YankeeFan on Nov 15, 2018 16:27:57 GMT
He didn't put it in quotes for a reason. But, he also didn't say that this was is interpretation of what he had been told by multiple sources. So, he got to use a creative phrase, and he gave the impression that it was a quote. Disagree. Here's the paragraph. How do you write that, unless someone actually used that verbiage? But his mood apparently has changed as he has taken measure of the electoral backlash that voters delivered Nov. 6. With the certainty that the incoming Democratic House majority will go after his tax returns and investigate his actions, and the likelihood of additional indictments by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, Trump has retreated into a cocoon of bitterness and resentment, according to multiple administration sources.He doesn't tell us that this is his opinion, based on talking to sources. He says it's "according to multiple administration sources." And, frankly, based on his role as a reporter, not a columnist, I'm not very interested in his thoughts about the president's mood, based on others' impressions. I'm looking for reporting from him.
Eli Stokols is a White House reporter based in the Los Angeles Times Washington, D.C., bureau. He is a veteran of Politico and the Wall Street Journal, where he covered the 2016 presidential campaign and then the Trump White House. www.latimes.com/la-bio-eli-stokols-staff.html |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 16:29:01 GMT
You're being ridiculous.
If he meant that phrase as a quote, he would have put it in quotes. That's basic.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 16:29:47 GMT
Here's the paragraph. How do you write that, unless someone actually used that verbiage? But his mood apparently has changed as he has taken measure of the electoral backlash that voters delivered Nov. 6. With the certainty that the incoming Democratic House majority will go after his tax returns and investigate his actions, and the likelihood of additional indictments by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III, Trump has retreated into a cocoon of bitterness and resentment, according to multiple administration sources.He doesn't tell us that this is his opinion, based on talking to sources. He says it's "according to multiple administration sources." I don't like how it is written, at all. But it is clear to me that he is paraphrasing/summarizing. |
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Post by YankeeFan on Nov 15, 2018 16:31:16 GMT
It's clear that this was the reporter's paraphrase distilling what multiple sources were telling him. I think it's a bit of an eye rolly turn of phrase, but YF has overplayed his hand in objecting to it. YankeeFan pounced! I'm pretty sure you're the only one who's acknowledged that is unlikely that multiple sources used that phrase. I wouldn't need to belabor the point if others would concede it. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 16:32:32 GMT
It's clear that this was the reporter's paraphrase distilling what multiple sources were telling him. I think it's a bit of an eye rolly turn of phrase, but YF has overplayed his hand in objecting to it. YankeeFan pounced! I'm pretty sure you're the only one who's acknowledged that is unlikely that multiple sources used that phrase. I wouldn't need to belabor the point if others would concede it. and @ltl have both acknowledged it. Your argument is that he intended to convey that it was a quote. He didn't. |
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Post by YankeeFan on Nov 15, 2018 16:33:40 GMT
You're being ridiculous. If he meant that phrase as a quote, he would have put it in quotes. That's basic. So, multiple sources didn't tell him this? Then why did he write it? Is that his opinion? Why not just give us actual quotes from your sources? We're seeing more and more of this. Makes it easy to spot the #FakeNews though. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 16:35:31 GMT
You're being ridiculous. If he meant that phrase as a quote, he would have put it in quotes. That's basic. So, multiple sources didn't tell him this? Then why did he write it? He's paraphrasing/summarizing. |
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Post by doctorquant on Nov 15, 2018 16:38:06 GMT
Seems to me the "retreated" part is the real problem ... isn't a cocoon of resentment and bitterness pretty much Trump's fons et origo?  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 18:33:02 GMT
It's clear that this was the reporter's paraphrase distilling what multiple sources were telling him. I think it's a bit of an eye rolly turn of phrase, but YF has overplayed his hand in objecting to it. YankeeFan pounced! I'm pretty sure you're the only one who's acknowledged that is unlikely that multiple sources used that phrase. I wouldn't need to belabor the point if others would concede it. I don't recall anyone claiming his sources used that exact phrase. It's hard to figure out what exactly you are arguing because it seems to have shifted several times in the last couple of pages, ultimately to the extremely finite point that "sources didn't say exactly those words" that no one else was arguing. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 18:34:48 GMT
It's an issue with an amazingly clear and succint answer.
Did the reporter use quote marks? No. Therefore, he did not intend it to be taken as a quote.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2018 18:47:28 GMT
Ultimately, we will be arguing over what "according to" means. Which is sure to be fun.
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