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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 20:24:10 GMT
Yesterday I had to meet up with a guy doing some work we were farming out - document management, in a nutshell. Nice guy on the phone. Seems to do good work. Reasonable price. He shows up in his SUV. Confederate flag license plate on the front. I continued to do business with him, though it took me aback a bit. Should I have? 1) Any chance he was driving someone else's SUV and didn't even realize what was on the front of it? 2) Even if the answer to 1 was "No," is there any chance your doing business with him could redound negatively to the reputation of your firm? In Indiana?
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Post by Da Man on Nov 13, 2018 20:26:42 GMT
I'm almost afraid to ponder this question: How in the fuck could that "honor" a friend killed in a car crash? I was in Florida when Dale Earnhardt died and some business/organization had one of his old race cars they took to a beach so fans could gather and pay their respects. I kid you not, but pretty much all of the fans around the car had a can of beer and were smoking a cigarette as they paid tribute to "The Intimidator." I just don't think a good portion of America thinks "How does this look?" before doing something. Sounds like a perfect NASCAR tribute to me.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 20:26:47 GMT
Let's stipulate no harm to the firm's reputation.
Do I have a moral/ethical obligation to refuse to do business, even if it costs my client more money?
Should I have run it by the client?
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Post by doctorquant on Nov 13, 2018 21:07:21 GMT
Let's stipulate no harm to the firm's reputation. Do I have a moral/ethical obligation to refuse to do business, even if it costs my client more money? Should I have run it by the client? Good question(s). And a good answer is ... I dunno. There's surely a line you shouldn't cross, but I'll be damned if I can think of a universal approach to drawing it.
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Post by sharky, Hunter’s text buddy on Nov 13, 2018 21:08:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 21:20:46 GMT
Let's stipulate no harm to the firm's reputation. Do I have a moral/ethical obligation to refuse to do business, even if it costs my client more money? Should I have run it by the client? Good question(s). And a good answer is ... I dunno. There's surely a line you shouldn't cross, but I'll be damned if I can think of a universal approach to drawing it. Could it harm your client's reputation or do you have a good faith reason to think the client would abject to using a given professional's services because he/she has a confederate flag license plate holder? If the answer to either is yes, you should run it by your client.
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Post by doctorquant on Nov 13, 2018 21:21:52 GMT
Good question(s). And a good answer is ... I dunno. There's surely a line you shouldn't cross, but I'll be damned if I can think of a universal approach to drawing it. Could it harm your client's reputation or do you have a good faith reason to think the client would abject to using a given professional's services because he/she has a confederate flag license plate holder? If the answer to either is yes, you should run it by your client. Another important question is ... To whom can I bill the hours spent deciding whether or not I should consult the client?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 21:27:43 GMT
Could it harm your client's reputation or do you have a good faith reason to think the client would abject to using a given professional's services because he/she has a confederate flag license plate holder? If the answer to either is yes, you should run it by your client. Another important question is ... To whom can I bill the hours spent deciding whether or not I should consult the client? :D Good point. Should probably bring multiple senior partners into discussion so you can bill at higher rate.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 21:32:30 GMT
Another important question is ... To whom can I bill the hours spent deciding whether or not I should consult the client? Good point. Should probably bring multiple senior partners into discussion so you can bill at higher rate. You are mistaking me for pre-failure Whitman. There are only two partners here. Well, I guess they are technically "multiple" partners. My boss showed me photos from his fishing trips. Both teen-age sons were wearing red MAGA hats. I doubt the Confederate flag thing would have been a big issue.
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Post by doctorquant on Nov 13, 2018 21:34:08 GMT
Both teen-age sons were wearing red MAGA hats. At least they'll be adequately represented during the police investigation.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 21:37:01 GMT
Both teen-age sons were wearing red MAGA hats. At least they'll be adequately represented during the police investigation. I wonder what percentage of woke people think that red MAGA hats should be criminalized. My guess: Not zero.
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Post by YankeeFan on Nov 13, 2018 22:47:54 GMT
Yesterday I had to meet up with a guy doing some work we were farming out - document management, in a nutshell. Nice guy on the phone. Seems to do good work. Reasonable price. He shows up in his SUV. Confederate flag license plate on the front. I continued to do business with him, though it took me aback a bit. Should I have? Indiana only requires a rear license plate, and this was a "commemorative" plate that he put where the front license would go in other states?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 22:51:58 GMT
Yesterday I had to meet up with a guy doing some work we were farming out - document management, in a nutshell. Nice guy on the phone. Seems to do good work. Reasonable price. He shows up in his SUV. Confederate flag license plate on the front. I continued to do business with him, though it took me aback a bit. Should I have? Indiana only requires a rear license plate, and this was a "commemorative" plate that he put where the front license would go in other states? I guess I shouldn't call it a "license plate." Purely decorative.
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Post by YankeeFan on Nov 13, 2018 23:10:36 GMT
Indiana only requires a rear license plate, and this was a "commemorative" plate that he put where the front license would go in other states? I guess I shouldn't call it a "license plate." Purely decorative. Just making sure I understood. That's a weird one. Unless it's not his car, that's a very deliberate choice to put that there. And, in 2018, you have to know what message that's sending, and you kind of have to be intending to send it to put that plate on your car/truck. I don't know that I would have sent him away, but I also don't know that I'd use him again.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 13, 2018 23:17:10 GMT
Texas requires front and back plates. Racist assholes have to resort to bumper or window stickers.
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