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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 16:27:09 GMT
Honestly, I'm not much of a Twitter guy at all. Yes, clearly. Truly. If there's a story like this, I'll monitor it and get sucked in. But that's about it. I go months without looking at Twitter. This site is my Twitter.
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Post by doctorquant on Jan 30, 2019 16:32:56 GMT
Let's say arguendo that this didn't remotely go down as was originally reported. How can there not be a credibility penalty paid by those who're insisting, even today, that OF COURSE HE SHOULD BE BELIEVED!?
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Post by xanadu on Jan 30, 2019 16:34:58 GMT
It'd be really funny if he's not gay either.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 16:54:18 GMT
Let's say arguendo that this didn't remotely go down as was originally reported. How can there not be a credibility penalty paid by those who're insisting, even today, that OF COURSE HE SHOULD BE BELIEVED!? I think the conventional wisdom nowadays among advocates -- I'm talking professionally trained ones -- is that believing without question is the best initial response. If the allegation is one of the small percentage that prove false, the theory goes, the initial step of believing is actually helpful in getting to that truth. Which is totally fine for those people in those roles. I can understand that. The problem is that best practice, instead of being used properly for that limited circumstance, appears to have leapt into the media and national dialogue.
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Post by doctorquant on Jan 30, 2019 16:58:17 GMT
That makes sense.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 17:01:08 GMT
Let's say arguendo that this didn't remotely go down as was originally reported. How can there not be a credibility penalty paid by those who're insisting, even today, that OF COURSE HE SHOULD BE BELIEVED!? They won't admit that there was anything particularly fishy about the initial report and, if you thought there was, then what's that say about you?
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Post by YankeeFan on Jan 30, 2019 17:04:04 GMT
He doesn't have any reason to make this up!
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 17:06:02 GMT
One rhetorical sleight of hand the #BelieveSurvivors crowd employs is to conflate withholding judgment using words like "allegedly" and "reportedly" with not believing. (Granted, I don't believe Smollett.)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 17:07:04 GMT
He doesn't have any reason to make this up! "What reason do we have to doubt Reese Witherspoon?"
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 17:11:08 GMT
From TMZ: "Empire" star Jussie Smollett didn't want to be encumbered by an entourage of bodyguards when he wasn't working ... despite an offer by Fox a week before the brutal attack.
Sources close to the situation tell us ... security for the "Empire" cast was increased last week after Fox Studios, in Chicago, received that threatening, homophobic letter addressed to Smollett.
JUSSIE SMOLLETT TURNED DOWN EXTRA SECURITY ... Days Before Brutal AttackOK this is weird. There's at least a chance of premeditation by ***somebody***. I mean, presumably Fox will be able to document the security steps it was taking. But what's the game here?
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Post by YankeeFan on Jan 30, 2019 17:15:29 GMT
Even if you wanted to attack him, how would you have found him at 2:00AM, on a Subway run?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 17:17:39 GMT
Even if you wanted to attack him, how would you have found him at 2:00AM, on a Subway run? I guess they could have been staking him out and waiting until he was alone. But . . . did he go to the great length of sending a letter threatening himself, and then faking this attack? It now appears that some kind of letter did exist a week earlier.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 17:21:47 GMT
I think the letter will turn out to be an unrelated red herring.
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Post by YankeeFan on Jan 30, 2019 17:32:12 GMT
I think the letter will turn out to be an unrelated red herring. That, or it was part of the hoax, or he figured it would help prove the hoax true. I don’t believe he was attacked on the street, in either a premeditated or random attack. If he was beaten, it was by someone he had chosen to spend time with.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2019 17:42:40 GMT
I wonder how many documented hate crimes against blacks and/or gays have occurred in Chicago in the last, say, five years.
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