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Post by Whitman on Jun 27, 2023 11:19:30 GMT
Sad. Victory for crazy Christians and Putin acolytes. And they announced it during Pride Month! At least the Hawks aren’t afraid to fly their Pride flag. I can’t remember his name, but the Blackhawks had a guy on their Cup teams that participated in Pride events well before it was all the rage and essentially expected. It was considered a fairly big deal at the time. |
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Post by YankeeFan on Jun 27, 2023 14:13:35 GMT
No one is ready for Pride Month to end. Every once in a while, I get thoroughly discouraged by the hate so easily expressed online. The replies here are today’s example. I really thought we were getting past this, but hating LGBT is back in style again. Come on. I make fun of the over the top reverence of Pride Month. I make fun of performative celebrations of it by organizations like the Black Hawks, and the fawning news coverage. (Local coverage is often more ridiculous. They will just do free PR for a local business because they're owned by someone in the LGBTQ+ community.) The fat white guy, in only his underwear, specifically choosing to "twerk" for a group of kids? Yeah, I think that's an issue. Every year we get articles about how "we need to keep the kink in Pride celebrations". OK. That's fine. But then they are not family friendly events. There's nothing celebratory, or specific to the LGBTQ+ community that makes such a performance acceptable. Outside of a Pride parade, the guy would deserve to get arrested. |
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Post by elcircogrande on Jun 27, 2023 14:17:22 GMT
Why do Pride events have to be family-friendly? Do all other public events have to be? Do people bring their kids to St. Patrick's and Santacon and complain about the debauchery, or is it just accepted that those aren't great places for kids?
At what point are parents responsible for doing their homework?
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Post by Whitman on Jun 27, 2023 14:20:45 GMT
Every once in a while, I get thoroughly discouraged by the hate so easily expressed online. The replies here are today’s example. I really thought we were getting past this, but hating LGBT is back in style again. Come on. I make fun of the over the top reverence of Pride Month. I make fun of performative celebrations of it by organizations like the Black Hawks, and the fawning news coverage. I coach 13- to 15-year-old boys and still hear them hurl "gay" at each other as an insult, and worse. So maybe a little bit of performance is OK. We were at the White Sox "Pride" night, and they gave away Pride-themed T-shirts. My son commented that he really liked his, and added, "I know it's a Pride shirt." I know you'll probably find it humorous, but I plan on wearing it out in public with him some time soon, because I do want him to see I don't think supporting the LGBT community ( generally - that doesn't mean I agree with all policy matters) is nothing to be embarrassed about. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 27, 2023 14:23:49 GMT
As someone who has taken his kids to a Pride event, I can say with utmost certainty that my kids would think a fat guy twerking in his underwear was hilarious and would not become sexual deviants in the process of laughing hysterically.
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Post by gordonbombay on Jun 27, 2023 14:28:32 GMT
On the one hand yes most public events have to be and should be family friendly
On the other, Chris Farley’s comedy in the 90s was basically fat guy twerking in underwear and we were all fine so. Yeah.
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Post by YankeeFan on Jun 27, 2023 14:32:29 GMT
Why do Pride events have to be family-friendly? Do all other public events have to be? Do people bring their kids to St. Patrick's and Santacon and complain about the debauchery, or is it just accepted that those aren't great places for kids? At what point are parents responsible for doing their homework? They absolutely do not have to be family friendly. (Though basic decency laws should not be suspended just because it's "Pride" related. Public nudity, for example, should not be allowed.) And, the St. Patrick's Day example is a good comparison, and one I almost mentioned. My dad always took us to the St. Patrick's Day Parade in NYC when I was a kid. Catholic Schools were actually closed for the day. But, it got out of hand, I still remember seeing a drunken COP piss, as he marched. But... then things changed. The Catholic schools stopped closing for the day. Open consumption of alcohol was stopped. They cracked down like crazy, and it became a family friendly event again. It's my same complaint I often make. We infantilize minority groups when we set different, lower standards for them. As if they're incapable of meeting the standard that every other organization meets. (The West Indian Day Parade in NYC has been a fucking disaster for at least three decades. But, the city has never had the courage to crack down on it like they did on the St. Patrick's Day Parade.) |
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Post by sharky, Hunter’s text buddy on Jun 27, 2023 14:33:06 GMT
Every once in a while, I get thoroughly discouraged by the hate so easily expressed online. The replies here are today’s example. I really thought we were getting past this, but hating LGBT is back in style again. Come on. I make fun of the over the top reverence of Pride Month. I make fun of performative celebrations of it by organizations like the Black Hawks, and the fawning news coverage. (Local coverage is often more ridiculous. They will just do free PR for a local business because they're owned by someone in the LGBTQ+ community.) The fat white guy, in only his underwear, specifically choosing to "twerk" for a group of kids? Yeah, I think that's an issue. Every year we get articles about how "we need to keep the kink in Pride celebrations". OK. That's fine. But then they are not family friendly events. There's nothing celebratory, or specific to the LGBTQ+ community that makes such a performance acceptable. Outside of a Pride parade, the guy would deserve to get arrested. I should have been more clear. I'm talking about the replies to the tweet. Not your reply. |
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Post by YankeeFan on Jun 27, 2023 14:33:34 GMT
As someone who has taken his kids to a Pride event, I can say with utmost certainty that my kids would think a fat guy twerking in his underwear was hilarious and would not become sexual deviants in the process of laughing hysterically. That's fine. But, it's still gross on his behalf. I wouldn't want to see the stuff that dude has on his computer. |
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Post by YankeeFan on Jun 27, 2023 14:36:09 GMT
Come on. I make fun of the over the top reverence of Pride Month. I make fun of performative celebrations of it by organizations like the Black Hawks, and the fawning news coverage. (Local coverage is often more ridiculous. They will just do free PR for a local business because they're owned by someone in the LGBTQ+ community.) The fat white guy, in only his underwear, specifically choosing to "twerk" for a group of kids? Yeah, I think that's an issue. Every year we get articles about how "we need to keep the kink in Pride celebrations". OK. That's fine. But then they are not family friendly events. There's nothing celebratory, or specific to the LGBTQ+ community that makes such a performance acceptable. Outside of a Pride parade, the guy would deserve to get arrested. I should have been more clear. I'm talking about the replies to the tweet. Not your reply. Oh, for sure. But, replies are aways awful. No matter the topic. Newspapers have mostly turned off replies on their websites because, even while wanting "engagement", they were a fucking disaster. And, I know I like to point out the crazy liberals, #LongCovid hypochondriacs, and crazy cat ladies, but a few people can look like a lot online. |
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Post by Whitman on Jun 27, 2023 14:37:23 GMT
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Post by YankeeFan on Jun 27, 2023 14:40:03 GMT
Come on. I make fun of the over the top reverence of Pride Month. I make fun of performative celebrations of it by organizations like the Black Hawks, and the fawning news coverage. I coach 13- to 15-year-old boys and still hear them hurl "gay" at each other as an insult, and worse. So maybe a little bit of performance is OK. We were at the White Sox "Pride" night, and they gave away Pride-themed T-shirts. My son commented that he really liked his, and added, "I know it's a Pride shirt." I know you'll probably find it humorous, but I plan on wearing it out in public with him some time soon, because I do want him to see I don't think supporting the LGBT community ( generally - that doesn't mean I agree with all policy matters) is nothing to be embarrassed about. I don't think that's crazy at all. You guys have to remember, I'm 54-years-old, and have lived in big cities my whole life. I've always had gay friends. I have a gay aunt. I have two gay nieces. How I judge or look at people has never had anything to do with their sexuality. I'm pro acceptance. I'm pro gay marriage. I'm pro people feeling comfortable with their sexuality, and expressing it in public. No one should feel shame about their sexuality, or who they love. "Coming out" should not be a traumatic experience. And, if I were to judge anyone, it would be family members who are uncomfortable with a gay family member. Wear your shirt proudly. I'm for it. |
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Post by YankeeFan on Jun 27, 2023 15:00:41 GMT
Here's an example of the "Free PR" I was talking about.
And, I get that Block Club is not the height of journalism, but I still think it's weird that the media turns off journalistic norms during Pride to become the PR arm of LGBTQ+ businesses.
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Post by YankeeFan on Jun 27, 2023 15:02:24 GMT
This is a weird hill to die on. The twerking dude is gross. He did it for his gratification. That's what makes it bad. |
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Post by Whitman on Jun 27, 2023 15:03:37 GMT
This is a weird hill to die on. The twerking dude is gross. He did it for his gratification. That's what makes it bad. I didn't see the twerking dude, but it seemed like the "Captain Underpants" cover pretty accurately represented what was being described. Posting it reminds me of when the news shows us courtroom sketches. |
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