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Post by oop on May 26, 2020 21:32:21 GMT
Having hobbies/interests/passions is bad. Yeah, I'm not particularly embarrassed about any of those things. You are particularly embarrassed about the many times you have lost your shit over posts here or on SJ.com. Have you told anybody they should commit suicide lately?
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Post by oop on May 26, 2020 21:36:27 GMT
As far as the government/school planning, I have specific knowledge only about places near here. Basically the local health departments issued guidance up until the state declared schools would be closed. Public libraries and community buildings also were on the closure list. The issue of "distance learning" had been discussed at least two years earlier, so some framework for that existed. It easily could have been more developed than it was, from what I am told. However, the public/private comparison is forced here. No one knows what the states will mandate. But say a school has an enrollment of 750. It's safe to assume there will be no assemblies of that size in the near future. So already any "first day" announcements and similar activities will change. After that, it's a guessing game* as to which classrooms would be full and which would have space. There is no "one size fits all" plan here. I don't think it would be a terrible idea for schools to talk with some businesses. But ultimately, state governors and local health departments are going to make the decisions on group sizes and other details. From there, plans will have to adjust, and I doubt that what Costco is doing will amount to a hill of beans. If 75 percent of Costco's customers were coming on buses, and required to be served one to two meals a day, and required in some cases to have specific needs met, then we might have a valid comparison. * I should probably clarify this term. It is a guessing game for me because I don't know which schools have unfilled capacity. It shouldn't be a guessing game for schools, which probably should be sketching out some ideas. The problem for most schools is they can't just sketch out one plan right now. As you said, the states will establish guidelines that all public schools will have to follow. I don't think any state has done that yet. In states that haven't had local school district budget votes yet, schools have to wait on that as well to see what resources they will have available to them. Then the schools can adjust accordingly. Since they can't really afford to wait for the states to make up their minds on a direction or for the budget votes, that means wasting time coming up with multiple plans. That means less time to actually put together the plan they will actually use and less time to put the pieces in place over the summer.
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Post by oop on May 26, 2020 21:39:06 GMT
Except you, I, the entire living world, as well as many corpses, know that's not what I'm referring to. But I do find this latest bit of goal-post moving entertaining, especially after you spent weeks scuttling from thread to thread to "wonder" why various conventions and other events had not been called off months in advance. Also, I think you are still failing to grasp that in a situation like this, the local health departments and the governors make the final call. Not the individual schools. You did nail the "idiot" part, though. You've diagnosed the problem! Now comes the hard part -- the repair. I wager to bet that many of governors in blue states will be making a political calculation tied to teachers unions You would lose that bet in many blue states, including New York.
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Post by oop on May 26, 2020 21:41:43 GMT
Early on in the pandemic, a Slate or Vox podcast I listen to - they all blend together - was discussing the implications of a "massive wealth transfer" from the old and infirm to the young, and how catastrophic that could be for the future if it were to go on too long. However it happens, these kids need to be back in school. Lock down the nursing homes. Require masks in stores. Fight this thing surgically. Be creative But the country can't be on permanent lockdown. We have to have a real reckoning with the fact that sometimes, living our lives comes at a price. Some people are going to die. And I'm not talking about "Applebee's" and "haircuts." What you are missing is just how wide a spread of the virus we could see from just one school. "They have to be open no matter what!" isn't good enough.
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Post by Da Man on May 26, 2020 22:04:03 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2020 22:06:13 GMT
Think of the teachers.
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Post by Whitman on May 26, 2020 22:09:39 GMT
Early on in the pandemic, a Slate or Vox podcast I listen to - they all blend together - was discussing the implications of a "massive wealth transfer" from the old and infirm to the young, and how catastrophic that could be for the future if it were to go on too long. However it happens, these kids need to be back in school. Lock down the nursing homes. Require masks in stores. Fight this thing surgically. Be creative But the country can't be on permanent lockdown. We have to have a real reckoning with the fact that sometimes, living our lives comes at a price. Some people are going to die. And I'm not talking about "Applebee's" and "haircuts." What you are missing is just how wide a spread of the virus we could see from just one school. "They have to be open no matter what!" isn't good enough. It's not "good enough" because I haven't filled in the details. But you must start with the idea that they need to open, "no matter what," and then figure out from there how to go about it. Mrs. Whitman says she will likely wear a face shield.
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Post by YankeeFan on May 26, 2020 22:30:34 GMT
Have any cases been traced to transmission at a k-12 school?
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Post by Whitman on May 26, 2020 22:32:21 GMT
Have any cases been traced to transmission at a k-12 school? I'm pretty sure the kind in the NYT story the other day who had the heart attack? Didn't it say it came from school?
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Post by Wolfenstein on May 26, 2020 22:33:54 GMT
Have any cases been traced to transmission at a k-12 school? Back in March, weren't you in a panic on here because the schools hadn't closed yet?
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Post by YankeeFan on May 26, 2020 22:35:22 GMT
Have any cases been traced to transmission at a k-12 school? I'm pretty sure the kind in the NYT story the other day who had the heart attack? Didn't it say it came from school? I’d have to look again. You’d think there would be more, including clusters, if it was a big problem, and no precautions were being taken prior to the shutdown.
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Post by YankeeFan on May 26, 2020 22:35:37 GMT
Have any cases been traced to transmission at a k-12 school? Back in March, weren't you in a panic on here because the schools hadn't closed yet? Yes.
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Post by Whitman on May 26, 2020 22:37:40 GMT
Have any cases been traced to transmission at a k-12 school? Back in March, weren't you in a panic on here because the schools hadn't closed yet? To be fair, at the time a lot of precautions we were taking would seem silly today, but we didn't know as much then. For instance, if you were sanitizing your mail then, that doesn't obligate you to still sanitize your mail now.
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Post by Ridiculously Dull Bobby on May 26, 2020 22:51:13 GMT
What not caring about this place and laughing at everyone here might look like:
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Post by Whitman on May 26, 2020 22:52:43 GMT
Yeah, I'm not particularly embarrassed about any of those things. You are particularly embarrassed about the many times you have lost your shit over posts here or on SJ.com. Have you told anybody they should commit suicide lately? LOL
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