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Post by YankeeFan on May 25, 2020 21:28:45 GMT
When, and under what circumstances, should schools reopen?
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Post by Whitman on May 25, 2020 21:29:17 GMT
November 4. Depending.
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Post by asthecrowflies on May 25, 2020 21:35:11 GMT
Schools are going to reopen in August.
Most will have a modified schedule - at least for the first few months. One variation I've seen is that half of the students go on Monday and Thursday. The other half go on Tuesday and Friday. The school is cleaned on Wednesday. On the days kids aren't at school, there will be remote learning.
It will suck.
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Post by Rejected by the Rejects on May 25, 2020 21:37:51 GMT
This weird Whitman shift happens earlier and earlier every election cycle.
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Post by YankeeFan on May 25, 2020 21:40:06 GMT
“Cleaning” the school is worthless.
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Post by Whitman on May 25, 2020 21:46:15 GMT
This weird Whitman shift happens earlier and earlier every election cycle. OK.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2020 22:02:24 GMT
Can it be tomorrow?
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Post by asthecrowflies on May 25, 2020 22:03:11 GMT
“Cleaning” the school is worthless. I largely agree, but it's still going to happen.
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Post by Liberal White Women on May 25, 2020 22:30:07 GMT
Schools are going to reopen in August. Most will have a modified schedule - at least for the first few months. One variation I've seen is that half of the students go on Monday and Thursday. The other half go on Tuesday and Friday. The school is cleaned on Wednesday. On the days kids aren't at school, there will be remote learning. It will suck. I've also seen half-day scenarios discussed for elementary schools (some A.M., some P.M.), with the idea being a set schedule every day of the week would be easier for parents who work, and it would still (I guess) spread the kids out through the school buildings. Anything less than kids back in classrooms all five days will be a huge anchor on the economy.
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Post by Wolfenstein on May 25, 2020 22:33:40 GMT
“Cleaning” the school is worthless. Ignorance Example No. 1 in this thread. I expect there will be more.
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Post by YankeeFan on May 25, 2020 22:47:39 GMT
“Cleaning” the school is worthless. Ignorance Example No. 1 in this thread. I expect there will be more. Tell me what it accomplishes.
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Post by YankeeFan on May 25, 2020 23:01:20 GMT
Kids are gross, so classrooms should be cleaned daily. Wiping down desks and chairs with a disinfectant should suffice. Deep cleaning with disinfectant foggers is theater. Right. Obviously schools should be cleaned. Closing for a day to “deep clean” is theater. The virus won’t live on surfaces long enough for it to matter. And, if it requires cleaning between Tuesday and Thursday, why doesn’t it need cleaning between Monday and Tuesday?
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Post by oop on May 25, 2020 23:30:10 GMT
Kids are gross, so classrooms should be cleaned daily. Wiping down desks and chairs with a disinfectant should suffice. Deep cleaning with disinfectant foggers is theater. Right. Obviously schools should be cleaned. Closing for a day to “deep clean” is theater. The virus won’t live on surfaces long enough for it to matter. And, if it requires cleaning between Tuesday and Thursday, why doesn’t it need cleaning between Monday and Tuesday? The model in question assumes students will get two days per week in the building, then have three days of working from home. The choice in that case is to be off Wednesday or Friday. Why not the day in the middle of the week to allow for a more thorough cleaning twice per week? I started hearing that idea a few weeks ago, before we saw research suggesting that it is less likely we can contract the virus from surfaces than originally believed. Perhaps the Wednesday cleaning day makes less sense now, but it's not completely worthless if you are going to go with that a schedule that has schools split in half with each group in the building two days per week. The options are limited due to space and funding. There isn't much we can do about the former and Republicans have shown no interest in helping with the latter.
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Post by oop on May 25, 2020 23:43:43 GMT
What should happen and what will happen are two different things. My guess is we will see schools open in the fall with some kind of modified schedule that mixes in-classroom and virtual learning. By the fall, I mean August or September, depending on when they normally begin in each state.
I'm focusing on K-12, as colleges could very well stick with remote learning in the fall. I'm not a fan of that approach, but I do think college students are better able to adapt than their younger counterparts.
Most models I've heard discussed are splitting schools in half, with students in each group alternating when they will be in the building. This still presents problems. The teachers and other staff would still be exposed to all of the students, just on different days. That adds to the likelihood that one student with the virus could spread it through a significant part of the community. The other issue is the days students are at home. They likely won't have support from their teachers, who will be busy with the students in the building those days. Those are also more days per week that parents have to find child care, which is one of the reasons we are seeing such a push to re-open schools. Even President Trump realizes that it is one of the obstacles to getting everybody back to work.
Of course, the advantages of those schedules are smaller class sizes and less crowding in the hallways, which will help with social distancing. More variation in schedules may also be necessary. I've also heard the idea floated that students stay in classrooms and teachers are the ones who move, but that presents issues at the higher grade levels. You might have students who take the same English class, but they are in different levels of math, as an example.
Districts are going to have to work with their various unions to address safety concerns. They could also make adjustments to make classrooms safer, but that takes time and money. The clock is already ticking and school districts are most likely to be working with less money, not more.
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Post by Wolfenstein on May 26, 2020 0:37:09 GMT
Ignorance Example No. 1 in this thread. I expect there will be more. Tell me what it accomplishes. Don't be even more idiotic than usual.
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