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Post by Wolfenstein on May 26, 2020 0:38:11 GMT
Kids are gross, so classrooms should be cleaned daily. Wiping down desks and chairs with a disinfectant should suffice. Deep cleaning with disinfectant foggers is theater. Right. Obviously schools should be cleaned. Closing for a day to “deep clean” is theater. The virus won’t live on surfaces long enough for it to matter. And, if it requires cleaning between Tuesday and Thursday, why doesn’t it need cleaning between Monday and Tuesday? Right. Also, my garbage should be picked up thrice daily. After all, I have it morning, noon, and night!
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Post by YankeeFan on May 26, 2020 0:44:00 GMT
Was this he part where you were going to expose my ignorance?
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Post by Dr Boom 70 on May 26, 2020 0:45:41 GMT
If they split classes school systems could get rid of half the teachers. This would be good for tight budgets.
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Post by Wolfenstein on May 26, 2020 1:10:33 GMT
Was this he part where you were going to expose my ignorance? Sort of. I mean, you will take care of that on your own. I have no specifics about any plan like the one mentioned here. But I am fairly certain of three things: (1) As usual, you know nothing about the topic at hand. (2) If they do go to a four-day attendance week, it will be for more reasons than "deep cleaning." But if the building is relatively empty, that would be an excellent time to sanitize. We are not simply talking about chairs and desks, as you and your rebus-loving enabler want to believe. There are restrooms, shops, science labs, computer labs, cafeterias, buses, weight rooms, locker rooms, gyms, etc. Of course, I'm sure that you would have thought of these things, too, given enough time. Also, there are situations where parents will need to come to the building -- some of it is legally required. Taking care of those on a day when students are not in attendance would seem to make sense. Given that no one has any definite scientific knowledge about the lifespan of the virus on various surfaces, it's guesswork. But until we get that knowledge, it is what it is. (3) None of this will register with you, and you will maintain your ignorance effectively, even offering a pithy response. But that's OK. You have managed to maintain this act across multiple boards, and have been eviscerated (and removed) at two of them. Your enablers will keep you from getting eviscerated here. But I have to wonder if it stings being the stupidest poster -- even beyond Ragu levels -- for such a long time at multiple places. Does it?
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Post by Wolfenstein on May 26, 2020 1:12:13 GMT
If they split classes school systems could get rid of half the teachers. This would be good for tight budgets. They could do that. Of course, the idea is to have fewer students in attendance so they can be spread out. So packing classrooms would seem to be a poor idea at this time.
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Post by Ridiculously Dull Bobby on May 26, 2020 1:19:40 GMT
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Post by doctorquant on May 26, 2020 1:38:41 GMT
Was this he part where you were going to expose my ignorance? Sort of. I mean, you will take care of that on your own. I have no specifics about any plan like the one mentioned here. But I am fairly certain of three things: (1) As usual, you know nothing about the topic at hand. (2) If they do go to a four-day attendance week, it will be for more reasons than "deep cleaning." But if the building is relatively empty, that would be an excellent time to sanitize. We are not simply talking about chairs and desks, as you and your rebus-loving enabler want to believe. There are restrooms, shops, science labs, computer labs, cafeterias, buses, weight rooms, locker rooms, gyms, etc. Of course, I'm sure that you would have thought of these things, too, given enough time. Also, there are situations where parents will need to come to the building -- some of it is legally required. Taking care of those on a day when students are not in attendance would seem to make sense. Given that no one has any definite scientific knowledge about the lifespan of the bacteria on various surfaces, it's guesswork. But until we get that knowledge, it is what it is. (3) None of this will register with you, and you will maintain your ignorance effectively, even offering a pithy response. But that's OK. You have managed to maintain this act across multiple boards, and have been eviscerated (and removed) at two of them. Your enablers will keep you from getting eviscerated here. But I have to wonder if it stings being the stupidest poster -- even beyond Ragu levels -- for such a long time at multiple places. Does it? Is it enabling to ask ... Bacteria?
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Post by Wolfenstein on May 26, 2020 1:56:55 GMT
Right. I was looking at this for reference:
So the virus is the part with the unknown lifespan on surfaces. But if they are cleaning, they are removing (hopefully) bacteria and viruses.
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Post by oop on May 26, 2020 2:09:27 GMT
If they split classes school systems could get rid of half the teachers. This would be good for tight budgets. How does splitting classes cut down on the number of teachers? The entire point is to allow for smaller classes. If anything, they need more staff or students will be on their own with no teacher support the days they are out of the building. Please think before you post next time.
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Post by YankeeFan on May 26, 2020 2:30:57 GMT
If they split classes school systems could get rid of half the teachers. This would be good for tight budgets. How does splitting classes cut down on the number of teachers? The entire point is to allow for smaller classes. If anything, they need more staff or students will be on their own with no teacher support the days they are out of the building. Please think before you post next time. If teachers are going to be doing in class instruction four days per week, with smaller classes, him much “distance learning” is going to be happening for the kids who aren’t in school on any given day? Any? And, does Wednesday— under the “clean” the building on Wednesday plan — become a distance learning day for everyone?
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Post by Wolfenstein on May 26, 2020 2:35:33 GMT
I would assume that with students in the building twice a week, they would get assignments to go through the whole week. Whether they choose to do them on their off days is another matter.
I'm still not really sure what the opposition is to cleaning the building (and buses, cafeterias, etc.) to make it less likely that people get other illnesses while this is going on. But binary thinkers with a penchant for ignorance aren't going to adjust.
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Post by Dr Boom 70 on May 26, 2020 2:36:16 GMT
So far these plans seem more about the teachers than the kids
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Post by Wolfenstein on May 26, 2020 2:46:52 GMT
Is there even a set plan anywhere? I mean, as fun as it might be to debate this, I am not sure it has actually been proposed anywhere.
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Post by doctorquant on May 26, 2020 2:51:49 GMT
So far these plans seem more about the teachers than the kids How do you judge a given plan? (And, for the record, it doesn't strike me as anything more than "Sorta what I heard was ..." w.r.t. to these scenarios incorporating a mid-week cleaning.) If you're judging it based on what's best for the kids, a full-blown "regular" school plan has to be the choice. Any considerations beyond best-for-the-kids, though, and the perspective of teachers/educators diminishes in value pretty rapidly (simply because such considerations rest on things decidedly outside the realm of teachers'/educators' expertise).
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Post by doctorquant on May 26, 2020 2:52:32 GMT
Is there even a set plan anywhere? I mean, as fun as it might be to debate this, I am not sure it has actually been proposed anywhere. Indeed.
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