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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2022 16:40:37 GMT
When did he become a member of BLM? You're too smart to be using oldtony's "I know you are but what am I?" routine. Usually you're like Steve Spurrier, landing shots that hurt because there's an element of truth to them. I truly hope there isn't that much speed off your fastball, to properly mix sports analogies.
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Post by Ridiculously Dull Bobby on Sept 15, 2022 16:40:44 GMT
So, it’s Glenn Youngkin’s fault? LOL. Homelessness and poverty are definitely issues that fall cleanly by party lines.
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Post by Ridiculously Dull Bobby on Sept 15, 2022 16:42:03 GMT
Martha's Vineyarder: Diversity is our strength! DeSantis: OK, cool ... let me add to your strength! Martha's Vineyarder: Wait, wut? I’m sure that’s what DeSantis was thinking.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2022 16:42:17 GMT
Homelessness and poverty are definitely issues that fall cleanly by party lines. Most American cities are beset by both. Must be a coincidence Democrats run them. 🤷♂️
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Post by sharky, Hunter’s text buddy on Sept 15, 2022 16:45:20 GMT
Martha's Vineyarder: Diversity is our strength! DeSantis: OK, cool ... let me add to your strength! Martha's Vineyarder: Wait, wut? I’m sure that’s what DeSantis was thinking. Yes, such a noble thing he's doing.
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Post by doctorquant on Sept 15, 2022 16:48:38 GMT
I am about as "open borders" a guy as there is, but it is undeniable that immigration policy as pursued and implemented by Democrats has routinely overlooked the damage that policy does to a helluva lot of little people who happen to be in the way (not to mention those poor souls trapped here by that policy). And I'm skeptical this has been a sin of omission, given that those little people happen to reside in places that many (most?) Democrats think deserve such damage. To paraphrase George Will, it's not unrealistic to think those little people might see things differently from those "whose closest contacts with Hispanics are with fine men and women who trim their lawns and put plates in front of them at restaurants, not with illegal immigrants passing through their backyards at 3 a.m."
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2022 16:51:00 GMT
When did he become a member of BLM? You're too smart to be using oldtony's "I know you are but what am I?" routine. Usually you're like Steve Spurrier, landing shots that hurt because there's an element of truth to them. I truly hope there isn't that much speed off your fastball, to properly mix sports analogies. There's more than an "element" of truth to BLM being run by people who exploit those they pretend to care about. Of course, as DQ, pointed out, that is part and parcel of power politics. So even a Georgia grad* should know better than to feign incredulity that a big-time politician would play by the rules of big-time politics. Also, if Florida and Texas are such terrible places to live -- can't easily kill babies, can more easily defend yourself and other horrifying realities -- I would think liberals would be happy to have immigrants shipped out. If they truly cared about them, wouldn't they want them to live elsewhere? *I assume you graduated. 😃
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Post by TyWebb on Sept 15, 2022 16:53:09 GMT
You're too smart to be using oldtony's "I know you are but what am I?" routine. Usually you're like Steve Spurrier, landing shots that hurt because there's an element of truth to them. I truly hope there isn't that much speed off your fastball, to properly mix sports analogies. There's more than an "element" of truth to BLM being run by people who exploit those they pretend to care about. Of course, as DQ, pointed out, that is part and parcel of power politics. So even a Georgia grad* should know better than to feign incredulity that a big-time politician would play by the rules of big-time politics. Also, if Florida and Texas are such terrible places to live -- can't easily kill babies, can more easily defend yourself and other horrifying realities -- I would think liberals would be happy to have immigrants shipped out. If they truly cared about them, wouldn't they want them to live elsewhere? *I assume you graduated. 😃 My gripe wasn't so much with the veracity of your joke, but more with its lazy construction.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2022 16:54:26 GMT
There's more than an "element" of truth to BLM being run by people who exploit those they pretend to care about. Of course, as DQ, pointed out, that is part and parcel of power politics. So even a Georgia grad* should know better than to feign incredulity that a big-time politician would play by the rules of big-time politics. Also, if Florida and Texas are such terrible places to live -- can't easily kill babies, can more easily defend yourself and other horrifying realities -- I would think liberals would be happy to have immigrants shipped out. If they truly cared about them, wouldn't they want them to live elsewhere? *I assume you graduated. 😃 My gripe wasn't so much with the veracity of your joke, but more with its lazy construction. I suppose I should be happy with the bar I've raised. I'll try to do better next time.
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Post by TyWebb on Sept 15, 2022 16:55:40 GMT
My gripe wasn't so much with the veracity of your joke, but more with its lazy construction. I suppose I should be happy with the bar I've raised. I'll try to better next time. And that's all I ask. Give the people what they want.
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Post by sharky, Hunter’s text buddy on Sept 15, 2022 17:02:13 GMT
I am about as "open borders" a guy as there is, but it is undeniable that immigration policy as pursued and implemented by Democrats has routinely overlooked the damage that policy does to a helluva lot of little people who happen to be in the way (not to mention those poor souls trapped here by that policy). And I'm skeptical this has been a sin of omission, given that those little people happen to reside in places that many (most?) Democrats think deserve such damage. To paraphrase George Will, it's not unrealistic to think those little people might see things differently from those "whose closest contacts with Hispanics are with fine men and women who trim their lawns and put plates in front of them at restaurants, not with illegal immigrants passing through their backyards at 3 a.m." But these stunts aren't providing any sort of solution to the issues you point out. They are stunts of no value, other than to own the libs, which is the greatest value of all, it seems, among Trump conservatives. My closest contacts with "Hispanics" are the friends I grew up with, who were from the first or second generation living in this country, who had tons of family here illegally or trying to get here illegally. These were my friends' mothers, fathers, uncles, nieces, cousins, and grandparents. I'm not sure exactly what led to them being almost universally embraced here. It's just what I've always known. But they are embraced, and they do fill a lot of the jobs others don't want to do, which is valuable to the community. Maybe I live in a fantasy land. I just wish our stance across the country was more geared to embracing these people, instead of sending them off to places because it's funny to rub it in liberals' faces.
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Post by YankeeFan on Sept 15, 2022 17:02:48 GMT
It's a fine result, and formulating a plan like this would be fine. The reason it stinks is that Desantis is treating human beings as if they are trash that his neighbor dropped in his cans. And you and he both know this. Maybe you're right, but I don't know how they're (DeSantis & Abbott) supposed to respond. They're dealing with a problem, that only the federal government can fix. If this is what it takes to turn a spotlight on the issue, and to get the federal government to take action, then maybe the ends do justify the means. And, why aren't they better off in Martha's Vineyard? Should they live under a bridge in Texas or Florida instead?
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Post by YankeeFan on Sept 15, 2022 17:07:02 GMT
Political stunts!!
Oh my gosh. We've never seen that before.
So, tell me, are there times when stunts are useful, because they bring attention -- media, public, and political -- to a problem, that might lead to solutions, or at least policy changes that reduce the problem?
Because I see this as a problem that has long been ignored.
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Post by Ridiculously Dull Bobby on Sept 15, 2022 17:15:23 GMT
Homelessness and poverty are definitely issues that fall cleanly by party lines. Most American cities are beset by both. Must be a coincidence Democrats run them. 🤷♂️ Yes, prosperous locations where lots of people live will have more homeless people than places where no one lives.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 15, 2022 17:19:57 GMT
Most American cities are beset by both. Must be a coincidence Democrats run them. 🤷♂️ Yes, prosperous locations where lots of people live will have more homeless people than places where no one lives. As long as it's prosperous for white liberals, I guess we can continue to ignore actual solutions for the not-so-prosperous.
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