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Post by sharky, Hunter’s text buddy on Sept 25, 2020 17:39:31 GMT
Are you for real? What the hell is wrong with that? |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2020 17:56:44 GMT
Other than the ignorance and Anti-Semitism, it seems perfectly fine.
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Post by doctorquant on Sept 25, 2020 18:06:11 GMT
I don't think her fawner-overs will hold this against her, but I doubt they'd be so gracious to someone of a different ideological stripe who similarly stepped in shit* ...
*I'm taking no position of the wisdom/folly of appearing prominently at such an event. The Congresswoman's peeps, however, appear to be aghast.
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Post by sharky, Hunter’s text buddy on Sept 25, 2020 18:07:28 GMT
Other than the ignorance and Anti-Semitism, it seems perfectly fine. Are you saying Kane is a self-hating Jew? |
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Post by sharky, Hunter’s text buddy on Sept 25, 2020 18:08:52 GMT
I don't think her fawner-overs will hold this against her, but I doubt they'd be so gracious to someone of a different ideological stripe who similarly stepped in shit ... From the reactions on Tweeter, I don't think they're giving her a pass. But seriously, we're supposed to get mad at her (probably not even her) scheduling something she thought was one thing, realizing it probably wasn't a good idea, and then canceling? |
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Post by doctorquant on Sept 25, 2020 18:17:16 GMT
I don't think her fawner-overs will hold this against her, but I doubt they'd be so gracious to someone of a different ideological stripe who similarly stepped in shit ... From the reactions on Tweeter, I don't think they're giving her a pass. But seriously, we're supposed to get mad at her (probably not even her) scheduling something she thought was one thing, realizing it probably wasn't a good idea, and then canceling? I'm not mad. |
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Post by gordonbombay on Sept 25, 2020 18:23:00 GMT
Honoring an assassinated Israeli leader now constitutes “stepping in shit” ?!?
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Post by YankeeFan on Sept 25, 2020 18:23:22 GMT
I don't think her fawner-overs will hold this against her, but I doubt they'd be so gracious to someone of a different ideological stripe who similarly stepped in shit ... From the reactions on Tweeter, I don't think they're giving her a pass. But seriously, we're supposed to get mad at her (probably not even her) scheduling something she thought was one thing, realizing it probably wasn't a good idea, and then canceling? The organization shouldn't have put words in her mouth, but what did she think she was signing up for, and what is wrong with the event in hindsight? |
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Post by sharky, Hunter’s text buddy on Sept 25, 2020 18:31:40 GMT
From the reactions on Tweeter, I don't think they're giving her a pass. But seriously, we're supposed to get mad at her (probably not even her) scheduling something she thought was one thing, realizing it probably wasn't a good idea, and then canceling? The organization shouldn't have put words in her mouth, but what did she think she was signing up for, and what is wrong with the event in hindsight? I don't really care. Nothingburger. |
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Post by YankeeFan on Sept 25, 2020 18:35:18 GMT
The organization shouldn't have put words in her mouth, but what did she think she was signing up for, and what is wrong with the event in hindsight? I don't really care. Nothingburger. She apparently doesn't know anything about Rabin, and now, after a single tweet, she's convinced he was a bad guy, and has thrown her staff under the bus. And, she's both helping to make policy, and is a critic of the President's policies in the region. You'd think she'd be better informed. |
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Post by sharky, Hunter’s text buddy on Sept 25, 2020 18:37:47 GMT
I don't really care. Nothingburger. She apparently doesn't know anything about Rabin, and now, after a single tweet, she's convinced he was a bad guy, and has thrown her staff under the bus. And, she's both helping to make policy, and is a critic of the President's policies in the region. You'd think she'd be better informed. You can view it that way, or you can view it that she didn't know, was informed, and made an informed decision, even though it went against her original decision and might make her look bad. Maybe the president can take a few pointers! |
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Post by YankeeFan on Sept 25, 2020 18:40:39 GMT
Meanwhile, Rabin was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize, for his work with the Palestinians on behalf of peace, and was slain by a fellow Jew, for the same reason. Someone should tell Bill Clinton he needs to take back the nice things he's said about him. Just 11 days before he was assassinated last year, my good friend Yitzhak Rabin stood on this very stage to accept this very same award. I thank you for giving it to him. He surely deserved it. And I can’t tell you how moved I am to follow in his footsteps.
The first time I met Prime Minister Rabin after I was elected President, I told him that if Israel would take risks for peace, America would do everything in its power to minimize those risks. Well, Israel has, and we have done our part. In a time of shrinking resources, we’ve kept up our economic assistance. We’ve worked not just to maintain Israel’s security, but to enhance it by making sure Israel’s qualitative military edge is greater than ever. We’ve built a bond of trust with Israel and its people that has given it the confidence necessary to make peace.
Now we all know the risks that Prime Minister Rabin took for peace and the price he paid for his vision. We know, too, that with every step along the path to peace in the Middle East, its enemies grow more desperate with bullets and bombs. So let me say again today, in honor of the person who last stood in this place to accept this award, and of his friendship to me and the bonds between our people and the peace-loving Arab people of the Middle East: We have supported the peace process. We have kept our commitment to minimize the risks that Israel has taken for peace. But the work is not done.
www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/WCPD-1996-05-27/pdf/WCPD-1996-05-27-Pg916.pdf
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Post by YankeeFan on Sept 25, 2020 18:43:57 GMT
I met Rabin that night, in 1995, just 11 days before he was assassinated. Was an incredible night. At the Intrepid’s red-carpet Secret Service checkpoint, a gauntlet of saluting Coast Guard officers greeted arrivals as the US Coast Guard Idlers sang a capella “Hava Nagila” and “Shalom Chaverim.” Helicopters were landing on the carrier discharging celebrities and “The Commandant’s Own” [United States Marine Drum & Bugle Corps] played an adrenalin-pumping “Hatikvah”. Entering the hangar-transformed into-ballroom, the Rabins — filing past a bayonet-topped rifle-bearing Marine Corps honor guard—had the 800 guests gaping at what turned out to be a once-in-a-lifetime historical moment.
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As he presented the 1995 Intrepid Freedom Award to P.M. Rabin, Governor Pataki said: ”We are behind Israel in protecting its people” adding: “I taught my children about the Holocaust.” Accepting the award Rabin stated: “We will continue to work together to fight tyranny, racism, anti-Semitism and intolerance wherever it exists… A nation that knows how to preserve its past has a great future.”
In his address Rabin reflected on his state of mind during the time he had been a military commander. “At that hour they are still laughing and weeping, still weaving plans and dreaming about love. Still musing about planting a garden or building a house…and they have no idea these are their last hours on earth…. Which of them will die first?” Reflecting on “the silence of the moment after the terrifying silence of the moment before” [when issuing orders] “for hundreds of military operations,” he almost whispered: “ I shall always remember the moment …just after making the decision to mount an action… The hush as senior officers slowly rise from their seats… the sight of their receding backs… the sound of the closing door and then — the silence in which I remain alone. That is the moment you grasp that as a result the decision [you] just made, people will be going to their deaths… and they still don’t know it.”
“This is the greatest evening the Intrepid ever had,” declared Intrepid rescuer Zachary Fisher, the “angel” (who saved the ship from the scrapheap) and founder of the Intrepid Sea & Air Museum. “Once you leave, Prime Minister,” said Fisher [a Forward fan with whom I often spoke in Yiddish) “ there will be no other night like this… this is it!”
Eleven days later, on November 4th. Rabin was assassinated.
forward.com/schmooze/323799/my-last-memories-of-yitzhak-rabin-11-days-before-he-was-killed/ |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2020 18:51:54 GMT
I don't think her fawner-overs will hold this against her, but I doubt they'd be so gracious to someone of a different ideological stripe who similarly stepped in shit ... From the reactions on Tweeter, I don't think they're giving her a pass. But seriously, we're supposed to get mad at her (probably not even her) scheduling something she thought was one thing, realizing it probably wasn't a good idea, and then canceling? I actually think she was gracious in the initial tweet by not outright blaming the person responsible. She obviously would never sign up for an event honoring an Israeli. Even one that is associated with support for and work toward peace with the Palestinians. That’s not what she, her ideological peers and their supporters stand for. |
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Post by sharky, Hunter’s text buddy on Sept 25, 2020 18:55:55 GMT
From the reactions on Tweeter, I don't think they're giving her a pass. But seriously, we're supposed to get mad at her (probably not even her) scheduling something she thought was one thing, realizing it probably wasn't a good idea, and then canceling? I actually think she was gracious in the initial tweet by not outright blaming the person responsible. She obviously would never sign up for an event honoring an Israeli. Even one that is associated with support for and work toward peace with the Palestinians. That’s not what she, her ideological peers and their supporters stand for. I think that's fair. |
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