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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2023 21:48:52 GMT
The more I think about this, the more people’s own personal reality plays into it.
Not in a Trumpian “alternate facts” kind of way, but rather that, for example, if you are raised to worry about climate change, that worry is not really the stressor it would appear to be from the outside. It’s just reality.
As another example, my great nephew, who was born with the same birth defect as YF’s daughter, has undergone 70-some surgeries to correct it. His reality is that every few months, he goes to the hospital to have his esophagus stretched. It’s like blinking an eye to him, while my daughter freaks the fuck out every time she steps into a hospital, even as a visitor.
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Post by pallister on Dec 5, 2023 22:20:58 GMT
The more I think about this, the more people’s own personal reality plays into it. Not in a Trumpian “alternate facts” kind of way, but rather that, for example, if you are raised to worry about climate change, that worry is not really the stressor it would appear to be from the outside. It’s just reality. As another example, my great nephew, who was born with the same birth defect as YF’s daughter, has undergone 70-some surgeries to correct it. His reality is that every few months, he goes to the hospital to have his esophagus stretched. It’s like blinking an eye to him, while my daughter freaks the fuck out every time she steps into a hospital, even as a visitor. It's the parents creating alternate, terrifying realities, driven by social media-fueled exploitation, that are the target demographic here. The actual reality is that those people are OVERWHELMINGLY liberal. |
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Post by dirtybird on Dec 5, 2023 23:37:35 GMT
The more I think about this, the more people’s own personal reality plays into it. Not in a Trumpian “alternate facts” kind of way, but rather that, for example, if you are raised to worry about climate change, that worry is not really the stressor it would appear to be from the outside. It’s just reality. As another example, my great nephew, who was born with the same birth defect as YF’s daughter, has undergone 70-some surgeries to correct it. His reality is that every few months, he goes to the hospital to have his esophagus stretched. It’s like blinking an eye to him, while my daughter freaks the fuck out every time she steps into a hospital, even as a visitor. It's the parents creating alternate, terrifying realities, driven by social media-fueled exploitation, that are the target demographic here. The actual reality is that those people are OVERWHELMINGLY liberal. Lol |
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Post by pallister on Dec 5, 2023 23:42:25 GMT
It's the parents creating alternate, terrifying realities, driven by social media-fueled exploitation, that are the target demographic here. The actual reality is that those people are OVERWHELMINGLY liberal. Lol You show me the conservative parents forcing their delusional gender politics on special needs children for Facebook/Twitter/Instagram likes. |
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Post by oop on Dec 6, 2023 0:36:48 GMT
You show me the conservative parents forcing their delusional gender politics on special needs children for Facebook/Twitter/Instagram likes. You don't think conservatives do there share of fearmongering and that might trickle down to their children. Seriously. I should have stopped after the first three words. You don't think. |
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Post by pallister on Dec 6, 2023 1:24:08 GMT
You show me the conservative parents forcing their delusional gender politics on special needs children for Facebook/Twitter/Instagram likes. You don't think conservatives do there share of fearmongering and that might trickle down to their children. Seriously. I should have stopped after the first three words. You don't think. Come on, Missouri. |
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Post by oop on Dec 6, 2023 2:39:03 GMT
You don't think conservatives do there share of fearmongering and that might trickle down to their children. Seriously. I should have stopped after the first three words. You don't think. Come on, Missouri. As always, you've got nothing. |
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Post by YankeeFan on Dec 6, 2023 16:28:46 GMT
Can you tell me -- in your own words -- what bias you believe the study begins with? I don't get pissed off at all. I look at the source. I realize that that the research was done with a political agenda and realize that it cannot be trusted no matter how they try to frame it. I roll my eyes, mock the people citing it and move on. It is a worthwhile topic approached in an invalid way. The questions you ask can be used to manipulate the data. You do realize that, right? I'm still unsure what your issue is here. What about the source makes you think the research was done with a political agenda? Do you think Gallup has a political agenda? Is it the lead researcher that you think has a political agenda? If the answer to either question is yes, what is this based on? Maybe you think the sample was not good, or the questions were not good. That could be a valid criticism, in some cases, and you allude to an issue with the questions, but don't state what your issue with them is. What's the matter with the questions? How do you think the questions could have been better, in order to remove any political bias? |
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Post by btexpress on Dec 6, 2023 16:50:57 GMT
I weirdly take it as a compliment when my kids ... are confused by those kids acting the fool. Once we were staying at my brother-in-law's house (when he was stilled married to Wife No. 1) and were awakened deep in the night by a God-awful commotion downstairs. Turns out the son, maybe 5 or 6 then, had an earache. The commotion had not that much to do with the earache, but rather the prospect of taking a dose of children's ibuprofen (the flavored syrup kind). There was pleading. There was negotiating. There was bargaining. And there were our kids looking at MommaQuant and me with this "What the fuck?" look. P.S. The son, now 28, has turned out to be an absolute loser ... and a shit, to boot. The greatest tasting children's medicine in the world (unless they've ruined it since I was a kid):  I would have chugged the bottle if the parents would have allowed. |
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Post by btexpress on Dec 6, 2023 16:54:20 GMT
You show me the conservative parents forcing their delusional gender politics on special needs children for Facebook/Twitter/Instagram likes. Well, there are other delusions . . . (hope he got a lot of likes).  |
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Post by oop on Dec 6, 2023 16:59:02 GMT
I don't get pissed off at all. I look at the source. I realize that that the research was done with a political agenda and realize that it cannot be trusted no matter how they try to frame it. I roll my eyes, mock the people citing it and move on. It is a worthwhile topic approached in an invalid way. The questions you ask can be used to manipulate the data. You do realize that, right? I'm still unsure what your issue is here. What about the source makes you think the research was done with a political agenda? Do you think Gallup has a political agenda? Is it the lead researcher that you think has a political agenda? If the answer to either question is yes, what is this based on? Maybe you think the sample was not good, or the questions were not good. That could be a valid criticism, in some cases, and you allude to an issue with the questions, but don't state what your issue with them is. What's the matter with the questions? How do you think the questions could have been better, in order to remove any political bias? Polls do the research they are directed to do. I already expressed my concerns regarding the questions. The interpretation of the data could also be a problem. The organization behind the survey clearly has an agenda. Did you even look at their website? Or is it that you did and you just don't care because you like the data. As always, your standards for information become far more lax when you like the information. |
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Post by YankeeFan on Dec 6, 2023 17:09:59 GMT
It’s… Gallup.
I don’t understand why can’t ever answer a simple question.
You appear to have a strongly felt opinion here, but either can’t, or won’t, defend it.
The only question left is whether you are dumb or a coward.
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Post by oop on Dec 6, 2023 17:19:04 GMT
I don't get pissed off at all. I look at the source. I realize that that the research was done with a political agenda and realize that it cannot be trusted no matter how they try to frame it. I roll my eyes, mock the people citing it and move on. It is a worthwhile topic approached in an invalid way. The questions you ask can be used to manipulate the data. You do realize that, right? I'm still unsure what your issue is here. What about the source makes you think the research was done with a political agenda? Do you think Gallup has a political agenda? Is it the lead researcher that you think has a political agenda? If the answer to either question is yes, what is this based on? Maybe you think the sample was not good, or the questions were not good. That could be a valid criticism, in some cases, and you allude to an issue with the questions, but don't state what your issue with them is. What's the matter with the questions? How do you think the questions could have been better, in order to remove any political bias? Your post starting this thread is based in a Tweet from the Washington Examiner, a source that is clearly biased against liberals. I notice that you focus on Gallup while ignoring the involvement of the Institute for Family Studies. The report on the IFS site that the Examiner cited is here. The self-reported data is questionable at best and the interpretation includes the dubious assumption that liberals are less likely to successfully discipline their children. This same site has another article about the importance of marriage. That uses a quote from the Bible as if it is evidence. This is a study by a biased group deserving of the mocking I posted earlier. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2023 17:32:39 GMT
The greatest tasting children's medicine in the world (unless they've ruined it since I was a kid): I would have chugged the bottle if the parents would have allowed. I can’t remember the name of them, but I loved those soft, chewy cherry cough drops when I was a kid. |
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Post by pallister on Dec 6, 2023 17:41:37 GMT
You show me the conservative parents forcing their delusional gender politics on special needs children for Facebook/Twitter/Instagram likes. Well, there are other delusions . . . (hope he got a lot of likes). What's wrong with teaching your children to protect themselves?!?! |
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