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Post by Whitman on Jan 31, 2024 15:58:40 GMT
How was she specifically mean to Trump? I can’t recall. Was it simply endorsing Biden? She endorsed Biden? Do you even follow the news?
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Post by btexpress on Jan 31, 2024 16:06:00 GMT
I'm just tickled that she has the MAGGATS all worried about something she MIGHT do, not anything she actually did.
And although she's been immensely popular for several years, it's pretty obvious that . . .
Swift endorsement 2024 > Swift endorsement 2020
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Post by YankeeFan on Jan 31, 2024 16:07:23 GMT
Do you even follow the news? In 2020? I guess she did. I either missed that at the time, or forgot it. I did see that the Times is reporting that they are seeking her endorsement for 2024. If she endorses him in 2020, what's holding her back now?
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Post by btexpress on Jan 31, 2024 16:11:01 GMT
Timing. You want it to do the most good, give the other side less time for their inevitable backlash, and of course, make sure Biden is indeed going to be the guy. Way too early for that. In 2020 she endorsed on Oct. 7. So it's like an anvil hanging over Trump's head for 8+ months. Not that he didn't have about 91 other anvils hanging over his head . . .
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Post by YankeeFan on Jan 31, 2024 16:31:34 GMT
I think the whole Taylor Swift phenomenon is funny. Her songs are catchy, and her fans love her music, and her performances. That's all great. But she's achieved a weird place in America, occupied maybe only along with Beyonce, where criticism of her in not allowed. Actually, it's more than that. Only praise of her is allowed. The love life thing is funny too. She started off dating teens, when she was in her 20s, going so far as to buy a house next to the Kennedy compound when she was dating a high schooler in the Kennedy clan. That's kind of creepy, and would be seen as gross if a dude did it. But that was a while ago. The Kelce relationship seems good, and healthy, but she began this tour dating a completely different dude. So, it's odd that everyone is so excited by this, and is convinced he's the love of her life, when he might just be the rebound guy. On politics, it's even funnier. Most of the complaints I've seen are just about the over saturation of coverage of her, especially during football games. People complain complain about media hype all of the time. I don't think that criticism is of the target of the attention. It's a media criticism, and I don't think it's political, or is limited to one political party. But, yes, recently, about three "conservatives" have been mean to her, and the reaction has been "Magas hate Taylor Swift!!" which is ridiculous. It's especially funny because the right is being accused of being "unhinged". I really don't think people remember how insane the left treated her in the past. She was racist: www.npr.org/sections/goatsandsoda/2015/09/01/436653602/taylor-swift-is-dreaming-of-a-very-white-africa She was a political coward: now.org/blog/feminist-taylor-swift-what-will-taylor-say/She's PROBLEMATIC: everydayfeminism.com/2015/09/taylor-swift-white-feminism/She "slut shames", is PROBLEMATIC, and you probably can't be a feminist and be a fan of hers: therepproject.org/how-can-you-be-a-feminist-and-like-taylor-swift/And there are about 1,000 more examples.
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Post by YankeeFan on Jan 31, 2024 16:40:43 GMT
Who is she dating that people are upset about? I liked it when she was rumored to be dating Fernando Alonso. I don't know how much truth there was to it. Would have been cool for her to attend the race next time he enters. Do you live under a rock? How could you not see all of the pain surrounding you? Let's not forget how this thread started. Swifties were in pain regarding her previous relationship.
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Post by YankeeFan on Jan 31, 2024 16:49:32 GMT
She was so white back in the day. The Swift kerfuffle distracts from Minaj's larger point, which is that the artistic achievements of black people — particularly black women — are frequently co-opted and commodified by white culture, which is then celebrated for being edgy or groundbreaking. When you view Minaj's tweets in this context, it seems much more likely that she simply wasn't even thinking about Swift when she wrote her tweets.
But by trying to shift the conversation from racism to sexism, Swift misses Minaj's point as well.www.vox.com/2015/7/21/9012179/taylor-swift-nicki-minaj-twitter
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Post by YankeeFan on Jan 31, 2024 16:50:49 GMT
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Post by Whitman on Jan 31, 2024 17:40:14 GMT
The subtext of all of this has essentially been that Beyonce is the real Queen of 21st Century Pop, no?
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Post by YankeeFan on Jan 31, 2024 17:49:46 GMT
Why are republicans obsessed with Taylor Swift??? LOL. This is sort of sad, and pathetic, especially considering that she did endorse him in 2020 (hat tip: Whitman ). I'm also not sure Taylor Swift moves the needle. And other Biden aides are drafting wish lists of potential surrogates, including elected officials, social media influencers and the endorsement of their wildest dreams: the global superstar Taylor Swift. ... The campaign has begun discussions with celebrities and social media stars about promoting Mr. Biden on Instagram and TikTok. When Mr. Biden took a fund-raising swing through Southern California in December, the campaign carved out time to meet with influencers to pitch them on posting pro-Biden content. There are also plans, first reported Sunday by NBC News, to hold a fund-raiser with two Democratic former presidents: Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, according to two people familiar with the discussions.
The biggest and most influential endorsement target is Ms. Swift, 34, the pop sensation and N.F.L. enthusiast, who can move millions of supporters with an Instagram post or a mid-concert aside. She endorsed Mr. Biden in 2020 and, last year, a single Instagram post of hers led to 35,000 new voter registrations. Fund-raising appeals from Ms. Swift could be worth millions of dollars for Mr. Biden.
Gov. Gavin Newsom of California, a top Biden surrogate, all but begged Ms. Swift to become more involved in Mr. Biden’s campaign when he spoke to reporters after a Republican primary debate in September.
“Taylor Swift stands tall and unique,” he said. “What she was able to accomplish just in getting young people activated to consider that they have a voice and that they should have a choice in the next election, I think, is profoundly powerful.”
The chatter around Ms. Swift and the potential of reaching her 279 million Instagram followers reached such intensity that the Biden team urged applicants in a job posting for a social media position not to describe their Taylor Swift strategy — the campaign had enough suggestions already. One idea that has been tossed around, a bit in jest: sending the president to a stop on Ms. Swift’s Eras Tour.
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Post by Whitman on Jan 31, 2024 17:55:02 GMT
Nothing will compare to Leena Dunham Day on the Hillary campaign trail.
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Post by YankeeFan on Jan 31, 2024 18:07:48 GMT
The subtext of all of this has essentially been that Beyonce is the real Queen of 21st Century Pop, no? The subtext of the earlier criticism? Yes. I mean that's by Kanye bum rushed the stage, and took the mic from her in 2009: Taylor was the safe, white pop star that America could embrace, and she did not have the awareness to understand that she was being used by white racists as a foil agains the black pop stars. And, while it was mostly about Beyonce, it was about Nicki Minaj and other too. www.vox.com/2015/7/21/9012179/taylor-swift-nicki-minaj-twitter
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Post by dirtybird on Jan 31, 2024 18:23:15 GMT
The whole "Taylor Swift is problematic" thing is an old meme, making fun of liberals, who were constantly upset that she did not speak out on social issues. I'm sorry none of you remember this. What gave you the impression no one remembered this?
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Post by Whitman on Jan 31, 2024 18:46:32 GMT
The subtext of all of this has essentially been that Beyonce is the real Queen of 21st Century Pop, no? The subtext of the earlier criticism? Yes. I mean that's by Kanye bum rushed the stage, and took the mic from her in 2009: Taylor was the safe, white pop star that America could embrace, and she did not have the awareness to understand that she was being used by white racists as a foil agains the black pop stars. And, while it was mostly about Beyonce, it was about Nicki Minaj and other too. www.vox.com/2015/7/21/9012179/taylor-swift-nicki-minaj-twitterSomeone should let them in on the secret: it's all shitty, disposable pop dreck.
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Post by Whitman on Feb 6, 2024 2:12:44 GMT
Her announcing a new album while accepting a Grammy rubbed me the wrong way, for some reason.
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