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Post by dirtybird on Dec 9, 2022 13:18:02 GMT
A pretty strong rendition of our modern politics.
Yes, an injustice was undone (admittedly for a famous person), yes the cost was not what you'd like, but how many vectors can I come up with by which it offenses MY politics? So many to choose from.
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Post by YankeeFan on Dec 9, 2022 13:19:30 GMT
Also, he was a Marine who was convicted at a court-martial and dishonorably discharged. Of course, I’m not saying he deserves to languish in a Russian prison forever, but he does fit the profile of someone who would have a knack for espionage. It also serves to throw some cold water on what a stone cold American hero the guy is. Yeah. He’s nothing like the guy you loved who did refrigeration repair that you admired so much. And, I know you think that Paul Whelan only exists to beat up Joe Biden for getting the Black lesbian, who hates America, out of prison, but he’s been a cause célèbre for some since before Griner was arrested.
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Post by Whitman on Dec 9, 2022 13:26:39 GMT
I was going to bring the refrigerator repairman up. It’s remarkable how people’s view of someone else’s service is so directly tied to their roles in the Fox News and MSNBC cinematic universes.
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Post by Ridiculously Dull Bobby on Dec 9, 2022 14:17:12 GMT
Can someone remind me who the refrigerator repair guy was?
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Post by Whitman on Dec 9, 2022 14:22:00 GMT
Can someone remind me who the refrigerator repair guy was? The Native American gentleman who was mean to the MAGA-hatted teen-ager in Washington D.C. Conservatives thought it was a hoot that he had repaired refrigerators in the Marines.
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Post by btexpress on Dec 9, 2022 14:56:32 GMT
The trade was always going to be lopsided because the U.S. doesn't lock up harmless, famous foreign nationals to use as bargaining chips. Maybe the US should alter the policy a bit. Are there any Russian lesbian tennis players? The highest-ranked Russian female (No. 8 Daria Kasatkina) came out a few months ago. Lives in Barcelona.
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Post by Ridiculously Dull Bobby on Dec 9, 2022 15:10:30 GMT
Can someone remind me who the refrigerator repair guy was? The Native American gentleman who was mean to the MAGA-hatted teen-ager in Washington D.C. Conservatives thought it was a hoot that he had repaired refrigerators in the Marines. Thanks — it’s all coming back to me now. Didn’t he also lie about serving in Vietnam? Or was it the media who said he was a “Vietnam veteran?”- Side note: It’s funny how often “military service” is brought up with absolutely no context in political discussions.
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Post by doctorquant on Dec 9, 2022 15:14:25 GMT
... how many vectors can I come up with by which it offenses MY politics? As MY politics more and more are "fuck this nonsense" ...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 9, 2022 16:32:59 GMT
If Whelan has been in prison since 2018, why didn't Trump cut one of his famous deals to bring him home?
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Post by oop on Dec 9, 2022 16:36:27 GMT
It also serves to throw some cold water on what a stone cold American hero the guy is. Yeah. He’s nothing like the guy you loved who did refrigeration repair that you admired so much. And, I know you think that Paul Whelan only exists to beat up Joe Biden for getting the Black lesbian, who hates America, out of prison, but he’s been a cause célèbre for some since before Griner was arrested. Most of them need to be reminded that President Trump either didn't even try or failed to get Whelan out.
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Post by Ridiculously Dull Bobby on Dec 9, 2022 16:37:32 GMT
If Whelan has been in prison since 2018, why didn't Trump cut one of his famous deals to bring him home? For the same reason “Biden’s White House” suppressed the Hunter story on Twitter three months before the inauguration.
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Post by doctorquant on Dec 9, 2022 16:38:40 GMT
If Whelan has been in prison since 2018, why didn't Trump cut one of his famous deals to bring him home? He likes people who weren't captured, OK?
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Post by Whitman on Dec 9, 2022 17:18:10 GMT
It also serves to throw some cold water on what a stone cold American hero the guy is. Yeah. He’s nothing like the guy you loved who did refrigeration repair that you admired so much. And, I know you think that Paul Whelan only exists to beat up Joe Biden for getting the Black lesbian, who hates America, out of prison, but he’s been a cause célèbre for some since before Griner was arrested. I would like Whalen to come home, as well. But I don't think it's necessary to over-sell his record in service of that aim. I don't think Whalen exists to beat up Joe Biden, but I think the exaggeration of his record exists for that purpose.
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Post by doctorquant on Dec 9, 2022 17:21:22 GMT
I don't even think it's there to "beat up Joe Biden" so much as it is to signal to the world you're the kind of person who wants to beat up Joe Biden.
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Post by Whitman on Dec 9, 2022 17:26:47 GMT
As this has become the latest thing to snipe on Facebook about, I am reminded of my friend's reaction yesterday when the first "This is bullshit whataboutPaulWhalen?!" text flew.
"Just one more thing I choose not to give a fuck about."
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