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Post by YankeeFan on May 29, 2023 23:37:07 GMT
Equity.
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Post by oop on May 30, 2023 2:13:44 GMT
I'm sure you can provide us with a clear explanation of what is being changed in the Troy School District and what happened in San Francisco. Then you can tell us what you think and why. Then there is the possibility that, as you often do, you didn't even bother to read the article linked in the Tweet you posted. You just like the mindless swipe at Democrats in the Tweet, so why bother to actually understand the substance of the situation.
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Post by YankeeFan on Jun 3, 2023 21:36:05 GMT
How many Black students does the Times think should have been admitted, and who should have been excluded to make room for more?
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Post by YankeeFan on Jun 3, 2023 21:39:05 GMT
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Post by YankeeFan on Jun 4, 2023 0:12:08 GMT
If the Times sees this as a problem, then tell me what they are doing to find a solution.
NYTCO made a profit of $22M in the first quarter of 2023.
The family that controls the paper has generational wealth, worth millions. So, what have they ever done to make the change they seek?
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Post by oop on Jun 4, 2023 5:05:03 GMT
If the Times sees this as a problem, then tell me what they are doing to find a solution. NYTCO made a profit of $22M in the first quarter of 2023. The family that controls the paper has generational wealth, worth millions. So, what have they ever done to make the change they seek? One function of a newspaper is to expose issues like this. That really was one of your dumber arguments. Funny how you find yourself defending something that at least has the look of bigotry against African American and Latino students.
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Post by YankeeFan on Jun 4, 2023 11:42:56 GMT
If the Times sees this as a problem, then tell me what they are doing to find a solution. NYTCO made a profit of $22M in the first quarter of 2023. The family that controls the paper has generational wealth, worth millions. So, what have they ever done to make the change they seek? One function of a newspaper is to expose issues like this. That really was one of your dumber arguments. Funny how you find yourself defending something that at least has the look of bigotry against African American and Latino students. What about it looks like bigotry?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 16:40:23 GMT
One function of a newspaper is to expose issues like this. That really was one of your dumber arguments. Funny how you find yourself defending something that at least has the look of bigotry against African American and Latino students. What about it looks like bigotry? Guessing oop doesn't celebrate AAPI Month.
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Post by oop on Jun 4, 2023 20:15:06 GMT
One function of a newspaper is to expose issues like this. That really was one of your dumber arguments. Funny how you find yourself defending something that at least has the look of bigotry against African American and Latino students. What about it looks like bigotry? This is a new low in an ongoing trend of including an incredibly small number of students from those groups. If it was one year, you could dismiss it as one year that a larger percentage of white and Asian students were the most qualified, but the numbers were low the previous two years as well. At the very least, it is worth a story looking into it. That said, your ignorance regarding the role of a newspaper really was one of the dumber arguments I've seen you make, and that's saying something.
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Post by oop on Jun 4, 2023 20:17:14 GMT
What about it looks like bigotry? Guessing oop doesn't celebrate AAPI Month. The high percentage of Asian students does not balance out the low numbers of African American and Latino students.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 20:28:25 GMT
Guessing oop doesn't celebrate AAPI Month. The high percentage of Asian students does not balance out the low numbers of African American and Latino students. Are you saying the Asian students don't deserve their placement?
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Post by oop on Jun 4, 2023 20:39:40 GMT
The high percentage of Asian students does not balance out the low numbers of African American and Latino students. Are you saying the Asian students don't deserve their placement? I said nothing of the kind. What you just did would be like asking if you and YankeeFan are saying that African American and Latino students aren't good enough for the top schools. Would that be fair to you? What I said is that admitting a high percentage of Asian students does not make up for not admitting enough African American and Latino students. It doesn't. Not all minority groups face the same issues, so lumping them all together makes little sense. It is absolutely fair to start asking questions when an ongoing trend of those schools leaving out students who are in certain minority groups reaches an all-time low.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 20:53:26 GMT
Are you saying the Asian students don't deserve their placement? I said nothing of the kind. What you just did would be like asking if you and YankeeFan are saying that African American and Latino students aren't good enough for the top schools. Would that be fair to you? What I said is that admitting a high percentage of Asian students does not make up for not admitting enough African American and Latino students. It doesn't. Not all minority groups face the same issues, so lumping them all together makes little sense. It is absolutely fair to start asking questions when an ongoing trend of those schools leaving out students who are in certain minority groups reaches an all-time low. So how would you determine the criteria for taking away admittance from Asians? Or would you just take all those spots from white students? What's your solution?
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Post by YankeeFan on Jun 4, 2023 21:05:41 GMT
What about it looks like bigotry? This is a new low in an ongoing trend of including an incredibly small number of students from those groups. If it was one year, you could dismiss it as one year that a larger percentage of white and Asian students were the most qualified, but the numbers were low the previous two years as well. At the very least, it is worth a story looking into it. That said, your ignorance regarding the role of a newspaper really was one of the dumber arguments I've seen you make, and that's saying something. The problem, such that it is, is created before it comes time to apply to the selective enrollment schools. So, it makes no sense to try to solve this problem at that point, by altering admission numbers. Like an all star or world cup roster, if you want to argue that someone left off should be on the roster, then you need to make the case for who they should replace. Who should lose a spot to allow for more Black students, and why? What is the actual problem here? And will the problem be solved by admitting more Black students? What percentage of the school should be Black, and why? Also, it should be pointed out that many of the talented Black students who would be good candidates for this school have other options.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 4, 2023 21:10:19 GMT
Other options is the LAST thing someone like oop wants.
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