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Post by Whitman on Jan 13, 2021 22:01:17 GMT
Is Anthony Gonzalez the same Anthony Gonzalez that played in the NFL?
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Post by sharky, Hunter’s text buddy on Jan 13, 2021 22:05:05 GMT
Representative John Katko, New York Rep. Liz Cheney, Wyoming Rep. Adam Kinzinger, Illinois Rep. Fred Upton, Michigan Rep. Jamie Herrera Beutler, Washington Rep. Dan Newhouse, Washington Rep. Peter Meijer, Michigan Rep. Anthony Gonzalez, Ohio Rep. Tom Rice, South Carolina Rep. David Valadao, California I don't know a ton about Rice, but that one is shocking to me.
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Post by doctorquant on Jan 13, 2021 22:08:41 GMT
Jeez, Rice signed the Texas v. Pennsylvania amicus brief! Talk about a course correction!
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Post by Whitman on Jan 13, 2021 22:13:06 GMT
I know it's because of celebrity, but whenever I see photos or video of dumpy Trump, it just floors me that this oaf is the guy who has managed to cultivate a manic cult following in American politics. I could understand if an Obama or a Hawley were able to do so - young, charismatic, good-looking guys. But this fucking guy?
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Post by sharky, Hunter’s text buddy on Jan 13, 2021 22:22:23 GMT
I know it's because of celebrity, but whenever I see photos or video of dumpy Trump, it just floors me that this oaf is the guy who has managed to cultivate a manic cult following in American politics. I could understand if an Obama or a Hawley were able to do so - young, charismatic, good-looking guys. But this fucking guy? Counterpoint:
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2021 22:23:10 GMT
Is Anthony Gonzalez the same Anthony Gonzalez that played in the NFL? Pretty sure he is.
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Post by shotglass on Jan 13, 2021 22:23:33 GMT
I know it's because of celebrity, but whenever I see photos or video of dumpy Trump, it just floors me that this oaf is the guy who has managed to cultivate a manic cult following in American politics. I could understand if an Obama or a Hawley were able to do so - young, charismatic, good-looking guys. But this fucking guy? The conservatives didn't want that, Dick. They wanted somebody who hated politics and D.C. as much as them. And for some insane reason, they look upon him as an Everyman who just happened to make himself wealthy at one point.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2021 22:24:53 GMT
Is Anthony Gonzalez the same Anthony Gonzalez that played in the NFL? Pretty sure he is. Yes, he is. The wide receiver for the Colts. Not the greatest TE of all time.
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Post by shotglass on Jan 13, 2021 22:25:43 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2021 22:26:54 GMT
I know it's because of celebrity, but whenever I see photos or video of dumpy Trump, it just floors me that this oaf is the guy who has managed to cultivate a manic cult following in American politics. I could understand if an Obama or a Hawley were able to do so - young, charismatic, good-looking guys. But this fucking guy? Counterpoint: I’m hard-pressed to think of a president who COULDN’T kick Trump’s ass.
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Post by YankeeFan on Jan 13, 2021 22:29:30 GMT
I would have guessed it would be more.
Trump didn't deserve any loyalty at this point, as he was loyal to no one but himself. And, I think his reputation will only get worse, making a vote for impeachment less difficult for republicans to defend.
It's all a little silly, coming with no time for a Senate trial, prior to the end of his term.
But, it's probably worth it for history's sake, and for ruling him ineligible for future office, which will only be doing republicans a favor.
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Post by Rejected by the Rejects on Jan 13, 2021 22:30:46 GMT
I would have guessed it would be more. Trump didn't deserve any loyalty at this point, as he was loyal to no one but himself. And, I think his reputation will only get worse, making a vote for impeachment less difficult for republicans to defend. It's all a little silly, coming with no time for a Senate trial, prior to the end of his term. But, it's probably worth it for history's sake, and for ruling him ineligible for future office, which will only be doing republicans a favor. He NEVER deserved any loyalty. And it does us all a favor.
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Post by Whitman on Jan 13, 2021 22:33:52 GMT
I would have guessed it would be more. Trump didn't deserve any loyalty at this point, as he was loyal to no one but himself. And, I think his reputation will only get worse, making a vote for impeachment less difficult for republicans to defend. It's all a little silly, coming with no time for a Senate trial, prior to the end of his term. But, it's probably worth it for history's sake, and for ruling him ineligible for future office, which will only be doing republicans a favor. That's OK. It's like the thought experiment I kept trying to pose to people with a few weeks left in the 2016 election: If you could choose either a Mitt Romney presidency or to let this thing play out, which would you choose? I said I would choose Romney, but I was pretty much on an island. I'm no longer on an island.
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Post by sharky, Hunter’s text buddy on Jan 13, 2021 22:34:14 GMT
I would have guessed it would be more. Trump didn't deserve any loyalty at this point, as he was loyal to no one but himself. And, I think his reputation will only get worse, making a vote for impeachment less difficult for republicans to defend. It's all a little silly, coming with no time for a Senate trial, prior to the end of his term. But, it's probably worth it for history's sake, and for ruling him ineligible for future office, which will only be doing republicans a favor. You have moved on, but I think this is pretty good evidence much of the Republican Party has not. I think Trump still has (and is going to maintain) more of a foothold than you would like.
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Post by Whitman on Jan 13, 2021 22:36:23 GMT
Can anyone even imagine what a fucking circus the 2024 election would be with him in it?
And the fucker would probably win the nomination.
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