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Post by btexpress on Oct 18, 2019 12:44:48 GMT
I think my conscience is clear regarding the ridiculous "Biden is squeaky clean" narrative Tony is putting forth.
I've had the knives out for Joe since late 2013.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 18, 2019 14:52:21 GMT
Having any sort of political discussion with Tony or YF is absolutely pointless. Both are incapable of admitting the truth when it comes to their team. I’m trying to think of the last time I saw an honest-to-god defense of Trump on this board. It’s been a long time. And, for the record, I don’t count YF’s posts about the DJIA, nor any of the posts pointing out some obscure yet vaguely similar thing some random Democrat did in the last 80 years. |
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Post by xanadu on Oct 18, 2019 19:40:52 GMT
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Post by xanadu on Oct 20, 2019 15:49:23 GMT
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Post by xanadu on Oct 21, 2019 20:07:47 GMT
Hillary got game.
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Post by xanadu on Oct 22, 2019 22:48:06 GMT
Tough day for YF's boy. www.nytimes.com/2019/10/22/us/politics/william-taylor-testimony.html2. The White House had two channels on Ukraine policy: official and unofficial. The unofficial one included Rudolph W. Giuliani, Mr. Trump’s personal lawyer.
I found a confusing and unusual arrangement for making U.S. policy toward Ukraine. There appeared to be two channels of U.S. policy-making and implementation, one regular and one highly irregular. As the Chief of Mission, I had authority over the regular, formal diplomatic processes, including the bulk of the U.S. effort to support Ukraine against the Russian invasion and to help it defeat corruption. This regular channel of U.S. policy-making has consistently had strong, bipartisan support both in Congress and in all administrations since Ukraine’s independence from Russia in 1991.
At the same time, however, there was an irregular, informal channel of U.S. policy-making with respect to Ukraine, one which included then-Special Envoy Kurt Volker, Ambassador Sondland, Secretary of Energy Rick Perry, and as I subsequently learned, Mr. Giuliani.
Later he said, When I first arrived in Kyiv, in June and July, the actions of both the regular and the irregular channels of foreign policy served the same goal-a strong U.S.-Ukraine partnership — but it became clear to me by August that the channels had diverged in their objectives. As this occurred, I became increasingly concerned.
 William B. Taylor Jr., the top American diplomat in Ukraine, arriving Tuesday on Capitol Hill.CreditAnna Moneymaker/The New York Times
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 20:41:38 GMT
Somewhat substantial, if you care about U.S. officials getting into bed with foreign governments to carry out personal grudges. Some people don’t care about that, I realize. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/10/23/hidden-revelation-taylor-hints-worse-come-trump/Taylor’s key mention of Barr comes in a very damning passage. Taylor recounted that he’d learned that Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, had informed Ukraine that the frozen military aid would be conditioned on launching the “investigations” Trump wanted.
Taylor then testified that on a call, Sondland stated that Trump told him he wanted Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to “publicly” pledge investigations — which would undercut the fact of Russian sabotage of the 2016 election and help smear potential 2020 opponent Joe Biden. Taylor claimed Sondland told him the money was dependent on this.
Taylor then adds:
We also discussed the possibility that the Ukrainian Prosecutor General, rather than President Zelenskyy, would make a statement about investigations, potentially in coordination with Attorney General Barr’s probe into the investigation of interference in the 2016 elections.
Two senior U.S. officials seriously discussed a plan in which the attorney general of the United States would publicly coordinate with a foreign government to help Trump absolve Russia of culpability for an attack on our political system, by helping to repudiate our intelligence services’ conclusion about that culpability.Never you worry, though. Bill Barr’s investigation will get to the bottom of this. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 20:43:41 GMT
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Post by Dr Boom 70 on Oct 23, 2019 20:55:56 GMT
Somewhat substantial, if you care about U.S. officials getting into bed with foreign governments to carry out personal grudges. Some people don’t care about that, I realize. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/10/23/hidden-revelation-taylor-hints-worse-come-trump/Taylor’s key mention of Barr comes in a very damning passage. Taylor recounted that he’d learned that Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, had informed Ukraine that the frozen military aid would be conditioned on launching the “investigations” Trump wanted.
Taylor then testified that on a call, Sondland stated that Trump told him he wanted Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to “publicly” pledge investigations — which would undercut the fact of Russian sabotage of the 2016 election and help smear potential 2020 opponent Joe Biden. Taylor claimed Sondland told him the money was dependent on this.
Taylor then adds:
We also discussed the possibility that the Ukrainian Prosecutor General, rather than President Zelenskyy, would make a statement about investigations, potentially in coordination with Attorney General Barr’s probe into the investigation of interference in the 2016 elections.
Two senior U.S. officials seriously discussed a plan in which the attorney general of the United States would publicly coordinate with a foreign government to help Trump absolve Russia of culpability for an attack on our political system, by helping to repudiate our intelligence services’ conclusion about that culpability.Never you worry, though. Bill Barr’s investigation will get to the bottom of this. Agree it's a possible concern but how is this any different than Biden as VP threatening to withhold a billion dollars
in aid unless a prosecutor was fired? Son of bitch I mean come on now.
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Post by TyWebb on Oct 23, 2019 23:01:59 GMT
Somewhat substantial, if you care about U.S. officials getting into bed with foreign governments to carry out personal grudges. Some people don’t care about that, I realize. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/10/23/hidden-revelation-taylor-hints-worse-come-trump/Taylor’s key mention of Barr comes in a very damning passage. Taylor recounted that he’d learned that Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, had informed Ukraine that the frozen military aid would be conditioned on launching the “investigations” Trump wanted.
Taylor then testified that on a call, Sondland stated that Trump told him he wanted Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to “publicly” pledge investigations — which would undercut the fact of Russian sabotage of the 2016 election and help smear potential 2020 opponent Joe Biden. Taylor claimed Sondland told him the money was dependent on this.
Taylor then adds:
We also discussed the possibility that the Ukrainian Prosecutor General, rather than President Zelenskyy, would make a statement about investigations, potentially in coordination with Attorney General Barr’s probe into the investigation of interference in the 2016 elections.
Two senior U.S. officials seriously discussed a plan in which the attorney general of the United States would publicly coordinate with a foreign government to help Trump absolve Russia of culpability for an attack on our political system, by helping to repudiate our intelligence services’ conclusion about that culpability.Never you worry, though. Bill Barr’s investigation will get to the bottom of this. Agree it's a possible concern but how is this any different than Biden as VP threatening to withhold a billion dollars
in aid unless a prosecutor was fired? Son of bitch I mean come on now.
You’re right. Let’s impeach both. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 23:40:05 GMT
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Post by formervanbboy on Oct 23, 2019 23:47:42 GMT
I wonder if Rep. Waltz had an opinion on the secrecy of the Benghazi hearings?
What an ill-informed group of nitwits.
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Post by Elderly man, very poor memory on Oct 23, 2019 23:52:30 GMT
Somewhat substantial, if you care about U.S. officials getting into bed with foreign governments to carry out personal grudges. Some people don’t care about that, I realize. www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/10/23/hidden-revelation-taylor-hints-worse-come-trump/Taylor’s key mention of Barr comes in a very damning passage. Taylor recounted that he’d learned that Gordon Sondland, the U.S. ambassador to the European Union, had informed Ukraine that the frozen military aid would be conditioned on launching the “investigations” Trump wanted.
Taylor then testified that on a call, Sondland stated that Trump told him he wanted Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to “publicly” pledge investigations — which would undercut the fact of Russian sabotage of the 2016 election and help smear potential 2020 opponent Joe Biden. Taylor claimed Sondland told him the money was dependent on this.
Taylor then adds:
We also discussed the possibility that the Ukrainian Prosecutor General, rather than President Zelenskyy, would make a statement about investigations, potentially in coordination with Attorney General Barr’s probe into the investigation of interference in the 2016 elections.
Two senior U.S. officials seriously discussed a plan in which the attorney general of the United States would publicly coordinate with a foreign government to help Trump absolve Russia of culpability for an attack on our political system, by helping to repudiate our intelligence services’ conclusion about that culpability.Never you worry, though. Bill Barr’s investigation will get to the bottom of this. Agree it's a possible concern but how is this any different than Biden as VP threatening to withhold a billion dollars
in aid unless a prosecutor was fired? Son of bitch I mean come on now.
How is this any different? The Biden thing actually happened. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 23:55:43 GMT
I wonder if Rep. Waltz had an opinion on the secrecy of the Benghazi hearings? What an ill-informed group of nitwits. I also wonder if Rep. Waltz is one of the DOZEN “protesting” Republicans who were already allowed in the SCIF because they sit on the committees conducting the inquiry. |
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2019 23:58:14 GMT
I wonder if Rep. Waltz had an opinion on the secrecy of the Benghazi hearings? What an ill-informed group of nitwits. Yes, when one group is purposely not sharing information, that tends to make others “ill-informed.” What are they hiding? |
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