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Post by YankeeFan on Sept 28, 2019 1:56:39 GMT
Knowing that we're dealing with a country that isn't corrupt is important. And, that Biden was out of office doesn't make his possible corruption any less relevant. Base on your theory, it would have been criminal to ask Ukraine for dirt on Manafort in 2016, which did happen. So, let me know where you want to set the standard, and we can apply it equally. Ok, impeach Obama and/or Hillary, too. Don't play games. What was the point of asking Ukraine for dirt in Manafort during the 2016 campaign? If that wasn't a scandal, why is this? Trump plays by the rules written, and lived by D.C. politicians, but when he follows their lead, they want to criminalize it. |
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Post by TyWebb on Sept 28, 2019 2:07:30 GMT
Ok, impeach Obama and/or Hillary, too. Don't play games. What was the point of asking Ukraine for dirt in Manafort during the 2016 campaign? If that wasn't a scandal, why is this? Trump plays by the rules written, and lived by D.C. politicians, but when he follows their lead, they want to criminalize it. I don’t know. I don’t know enough about it to say. I know Manafort wasn’t a candidate for president (but yes, an advisor to one). But I do know that because someone else got away with it doesn’t mean everyone should get away with it. One has nothing to do with the other. What Trump did was wrong, and it isn’t made less wrong because someone else did it. These are weak arguments, which makes me think you are just fighting the fight for sport and not actual belief. |
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 2:15:46 GMT
President Trump told two senior Russian officials in a 2017 Oval Office meeting that he was unconcerned about Moscow’s interference in the 2016 U.S. presidential election because the United States did the same in other countries, an assertion that prompted alarmed White House officials to limit access to the remarks to an unusually small number of people, according to three former officials with knowledge of the matter.
The comments, which have not been previously reported, were part of a now-infamous meeting with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, in which Trump revealed highly classified information that exposed a source of intelligence on the Islamic State. He also said during the meeting that firing FBI Director James B. Comey the previous day had relieved “great pressure” on him.Trump told Russian officials in 2017 he wasn’t concerned about Moscow’s interference in U.S. electionI guess this is the beginning of the "more" that the whistleblower said there was.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 3:50:55 GMT
Yes, it makes total sense to tell other, hostile nations all the nefarious things we've done. It would never do any harm to give another government the leverage to say "the president of the United States confirmed that his government illegally and unethically interfered in other nations' elections." We should also make sure other countries know about all the people the CIA has taken out and everything else they've been doing under cover of darkness. Jesus. It's not like they're commiserating about their wives and celebrating their sidepieces. |
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Post by sharky, Hunter’s text buddy on Sept 28, 2019 4:01:58 GMT
It's not like they're commiserating about their wives and celebrating their sidepieces. Probably did that too. |
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Post by stoney on Sept 28, 2019 4:02:38 GMT
Why? Because he gave an honest answer regarding our own shenanigans, which involved worse actions than just online propaganda? There are some things that a POTUS should not be honestly forthcoming about when dealing with the leader of an adversary power. This is certainly one of those things. |
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Post by sharky, Hunter’s text buddy on Sept 28, 2019 4:06:00 GMT
Boris! My man! Have I told you the one about the war crimes we’ve committed?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 4:29:21 GMT
Cyberwar and cyberterror aren’t just some tweets and Facebook posts. They’re real things and very damaging.
Russia’s military aggression all over the world (moving into Ukraine, propping up the Syrian government, etc.) are very bad for U.S. interests.
We lead NATO. Russia and NATO have been on the outs at various times.
This is not a government we need to be telling our secrets to.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 4:39:45 GMT
Sure, the Russians might “know,” but it’s an entirely different situation if we confirm it. We’re compromised if we’re openly acknowledging it.
There was also mention in the story that Trump divulged some highly classified intelligence about ISIS.
It’s funny that you mentioned how people are going crazy wanting this to be big, because you seem to be going crazy wanting it not to matter.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2019 4:57:20 GMT
Right, and of course nobody in Congress ever does anything based on public opinion.
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Post by btexpress on Sept 28, 2019 5:21:35 GMT
So “no”? Your answer is no, he did nothing wrong? Seeking dirt on the Bidens, men who at present hold no office and have no influence on the direction of the country, was in the country’s best interest and not Trump’s? Knowing that we're dealing with a country that isn't corrupt is important. No, it's not. Because no such country exists. |
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Post by btexpress on Sept 28, 2019 5:33:49 GMT
Cyberwar and cyberterror aren’t just some tweets and Facebook posts. They’re real things and very damaging. Russia’s military aggression all over the world (moving into Ukraine, propping up the Syrian government, etc.) are very bad for U.S. interests. If the Syrian government falls, ISIS and its ilk take over. Why does the US believe that's in its best interests? Aside from that, Syria is Russia's ally. Are they a shitty country to have for an ally? I guess, but it's no more shitty than Saudi Arabia. |
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Post by old_tony on Sept 28, 2019 11:34:54 GMT
Sure, the Russians might “know,” but it’s an entirely different situation if we confirm it. We’re compromised if we’re openly acknowledging it. There was also mention in the story that Trump divulged some highly classified intelligence about ISIS. It’s funny that you mentioned how people are going crazy wanting this to be big, because you seem to be going crazy wanting it not to matter. I'm guessing they got their confirmation from an email server in Chappaqua, N.Y. |
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Post by xanadu on Sept 28, 2019 11:37:18 GMT
You mean the Saudi Arabia of the 9/11 guys? How bad can they be?
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Post by Dr Boom 70 on Sept 28, 2019 15:49:26 GMT
Cyberwar and cyberterror aren’t just some tweets and Facebook posts. They’re real things and very damaging. Russia’s military aggression all over the world (moving into Ukraine, propping up the Syrian government, etc.) are very bad for U.S. interests. We lead NATO. Russia and NATO have been on the outs at various times. This is not a government we need to be telling our secrets to. We need to invade Vietnam and stop the spread of communism. |
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