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Post by YankeeFan on Jul 8, 2019 15:03:44 GMT
Cool, throw Obama in prison too, I guess. Look, make whatever point you want to make, but let's not pretend that your "side" is any better than mine, or any less opportunistic. I'm all for throwing in jail anyone who participated in Epstein's activities with young girls, regardless of their political party. But, when you say that the reactions would be different, depending on who is exposed, you're joking. All we need to do is to look at what's currently happening -- or not happening -- in Virginia as evidence. We're told it's better to have the state run by a pair of racists, and a rapist, rather than hand control over to republicans. Bill Clinton was defended by feminists even, though there was ample evidence he was a sexual predator. He was the leading figure in the party for a decade after he left office, and his wife/enabler was the nominee two years ago. Obama attended the Church of a Black Nationalist, was pals with an unrepentant terrorist, and with anti-Semites like Farrakhan, sought the counsel of Al Sharpton, and delivered a birthday cake to Helen Thomas. And, that's before we even begin to tough the rampant anti-Semitism in today's Democratic Party, let by the freshman members of Congress.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 15:09:39 GMT
The only appropriate response to Democrats’ embrace of a sexual predator is to enthusiastically vote for and support someone who has been accused of sexual assault by 18 different women.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 15:11:09 GMT
The only appropriate response to Democrats’ embrace of a sexual predator is to enthusiastically vote for and support someone who has been accused of sexual assault by 18 different women. Liars one and all.
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Post by YankeeFan on Jul 8, 2019 15:12:46 GMT
The only appropriate response to Democrats’ embrace of a sexual predator is to enthusiastically vote for and support someone who has been accused of sexual assault by 18 different women. Maybe the dems shouldn't have nominated the enabler of the sexual predator. And, hey, maybe the media would have been better at covering issues like this, if they had drummed out the predators in their own ranks. But, every network had a predator in a position of power and influence, who had no interest in covering these stories.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 15:13:58 GMT
The only appropriate response to Democrats’ embrace of a sexual predator is to enthusiastically vote for and support someone who has been accused of sexual assault by 18 different women. Maybe the dems shouldn't have nominated the enabler of the sexual predator. And, hey, maybe the media would have been better at covering issues like this, if they had drummed out the predators in their own ranks. But, every network had a predator in a position of power and influence, who had no interest in covering these stories. So Trump's good then? Is it that you don't care about his history or you think these women are making up stories to attack him?
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Post by YankeeFan on Jul 8, 2019 15:14:25 GMT
The only appropriate response to Democrats’ embrace of a sexual predator is to enthusiastically vote for and support someone who has been accused of sexual assault by 18 different women. Liars one and all. You know, you don't need 18 accusations, if you have one provable one. As with Kavanaugh, the accusations of Avenatti's client didn't help Dr. Ford, they helped Bart. So, let's look at the most credible accusation against Trump. Which one is it?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 15:14:53 GMT
Cool, throw Obama in prison too, I guess. But, when you say that the reactions would be different, depending on who is exposed, you're joking. We have a litany of evidence, catalogued on this board, of you defending President Trump as he's been credibly accused by more than a dozen women of sexual assault. Just last week you were sharing screenshots of Jean Carroll's Facebook page saying "Whom among us doesn't love her rapists TV show?" Now let's go see if we can find any examples of me defending Bill Clinton on any similar issues. I'll wait. Tell Moddy and Ragu you just need the search function to work again for like an hour.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 15:17:52 GMT
You know, you don't need 18 accusations, if you have one provable one. As with Kavanaugh, the accusations of Avenatti's client didn't help Dr. Ford, they helped Bart. So, let's look at the most credible accusation against Trump. Which one is it? Personally I'd go with the woman from the woman who said he grabbed her by the pussy at Mar-a-Lago. I wonder if he has ever been known to discuss grabbing women by the pussy. The rape allegation from E. Jean Carroll is quite credible. The one from the woman who said he felt her up on the airplane. Really most if not all of them carry a far higher standard of credibility than is normally necessary to satisfy you.
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Post by YankeeFan on Jul 8, 2019 15:20:14 GMT
Maybe the dems shouldn't have nominated the enabler of the sexual predator. And, hey, maybe the media would have been better at covering issues like this, if they had drummed out the predators in their own ranks. But, every network had a predator in a position of power and influence, who had no interest in covering these stories. So Trump's good then? Is it that you don't care about his history or you think these women are making up stories to attack him? Define good. Trump is as flawed as, or even more flawed than, any man who has held the office. I've long acknowledged this, and he wasn't my first choice. Was he my choice vs. Hillary Clinton? Duh. Will he be my choice against a socialist, who wants to force nuns to pay for contraception, will raise taxes, wants to confiscate guns, is against any reasonable restriction on abortion, would impose onerous regulations on business, etc. Duh. If he's guilty of something, bring the evidence, impeach him, and give me President Pence. I'm good with that. That he's been accused of all sorts of things, including being an agent of Putin, with no evidence, for two years, makes me think there is no impeachable evidence available, or folks would not have been focused on Alpha Bank, and meetings that never occurred in Prague.
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Post by YankeeFan on Jul 8, 2019 15:21:50 GMT
But, when you say that the reactions would be different, depending on who is exposed, you're joking. We have a litany of evidence, catalogued on this board, of you defending President Trump as he's been credibly accused by more than a dozen women of sexual assault. Just last week you were sharing screenshots of Jean Carroll's Facebook page saying "Whom among us doesn't love her rapists TV show?" Now let's go see if we can find any examples of me defending Bill Clinton on any similar issues. I'll wait. Tell Moddy and Ragu you just need the search function to work again for like an hour. Shall we go through the E. Jean Carroll accusation? I assumed it wasn't necessary. Did you watch any of her media appearances? Did you find her credible? Consistent even?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 15:22:31 GMT
Alright I'm not getting dragged into this shit on the Epstein thread.
He is a serial sexual assaulter and you simply do not fucking care.
You had some clearly identifiable principles in your politics before the 2016 election.
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Post by YankeeFan on Jul 8, 2019 15:23:55 GMT
Personally I'd go with the woman from the woman who said he grabbed her by the pussy at Mar-a-Lago. I wonder if he has ever been known to discuss grabbing women by the pussy. The rape allegation from E. Jean Carroll is quite credible. The one from the woman who said he felt her up on the airplane. Really most if not all of them carry a far higher standard of credibility than is normally necessary to satisfy you. Don't remember the first one, but am happy to revisit it. E. Jean is not at all credible. Is there any evidence that puts Trump and the airplane woman together on the same plane? Didn't he own his own plane by then?
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Post by YankeeFan on Jul 8, 2019 15:27:08 GMT
Alright I'm not getting dragged into this shit on the Epstein thread. He is a serial sexual assaulter and you simply do not fucking care. You had some clearly identifiable principles in your politics before the 2016 election. This is silly. It's great to point to 18 accusations, but if you don't have even one that survives the most minimal scrutiny, what are they worth. You're not willing to tell me which one you find the most credible, and why? That's some bullshit, and it's a tactic designed to destroy people, without having to provide any evidence. The whole, "end of conversation" way of arguing a topic is ridiculous. It's exactly what happened to Kavanaugh -- who never met, or was in the same room as his accuser.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 8, 2019 15:29:39 GMT
Alright I'm not getting dragged into this shit on the Epstein thread. He is a serial sexual assaulter and you simply do not fucking care. You had some clearly identifiable principles in your politics before the 2016 election. He’s just waiting a couple decades or so to self-righteously announce on a message board that he no longer supports him.
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Post by YankeeFan on Jul 8, 2019 15:31:25 GMT
And, btw, I'm also confused by @double Down's earlier mention of Cernovich.
Wasn't it Cernovich who filed the lawsuit, later joined by the Miami Herald, which led to the unsealing of the documents in the Epstein case?
Why is he being portrayed as a villain here, who is trying to cover up for Trump, or anyone else?
And, while we're asking questions, why is it only the Trump DOJ who is finally bringing these charges, that go back years?
Why didn't Preet Bharara, who ran the SDNY under Obama go after Epstein for the crimes committed in New York?
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