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Post by Wolfenstein on Jul 10, 2019 16:55:00 GMT
Whenever I read another of DD's daily free-form delusions, I recall the line from "M*A*S*H": "It's another of Col. Flagg's red herrings."
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Post by YankeeFan on Jul 10, 2019 17:02:08 GMT
Are we unable to multi-task? Carter: Bad Acosta: Bad Ward: ________ Now, fill in the blank. A few things: — I don’t know what Ward’s draft looked like when it was filed. — I don’t know if she ever met the standard needed for publication. Especially of something like this. — I don’t know if Epstein pressured VF to spike it. He has certainly been rumored to have done that in the past. — I don’t know if Ward shopped it around to other pubs, if they also passed on it, and/or why. I love how everyone has enough info to condemn Carter, Acosta, Dershowitz, and others, but needs a lot more questions answered before they can levy any criticism Ward's way. Funny too that she doesn't even blame Carter. (Or maybe she's still terrified that she'll be blackballed from journalism, or won't be able to get a table at his restaurant, if she does.) But, maybe also, the Daily Beast's editors could have asked her to include the answers to some of these questions in the piece they published, and maybe some journalists could follow up with some questions for her. I worked through December 2002 like a dog. I worked with three fact-checkers, the magazine’s lawyer; I sifted through everything Epstein threw at me and defused it. We were getting ready to go to press. And then the bullet came. “Graydon’s taking out the women from the piece,” Doug Stumpf, my editor, told me.
I began to cry. It was so wrong. The family had been so brave. I thought about the mother, her fear of the dark, of the harm she feared might come to her daughters. And then I thought of all the rich, powerful men in suits ready to talk about Epstein’s “great mind.”
“Why?” I asked Graydon. “He’s sensitive about the young women” was his answer. “And we still get to run most of the piece.”
Many years later I know that Graydon made the call that seemed right to him then—and though the episode still deeply rankles me I don’t blame him. He sits in different shoes from me; editors are faced with these sorts of decisions all the time, and disaster can strike if they don’t err on the side of caution.
It came down to my sources’ word against Epstein’s… and at the time Graydon believed Epstein. In my notebook I have him saying, “I believe him… I’m Canadian.”
Today, my editor at The Daily Beast emailed Graydon to ask why he had excised the women’s stories from my article. A Vanity Fair spokeswoman responded: “Epstein denied the charges at the time and since the claims were unsubstantiated and no criminal investigation had been initiated, we decided not to include them in what was a financial story.”
But this wasn’t a financial story, it was a classic Vanity Fair profile of a society figure. I don’t know—because I never asked him—if Graydon still believed Epstein when in 2007 Epstein was sentenced to jail time for soliciting underage prostitutes. But it has often struck me that if my piece had named the women, the FBI might have come after Epstein sooner and perhaps some of his victims, now, in the latest spate of allegations, allegedly either paid off or too fearful of retribution to speak up, would have been saved.
He has a way of spooking you, does Epstein. Or he did. My babies were born prematurely, dangerously so; he’d asked which hospital I was giving birth at—and I was so afraid that somehow, with all his connections to the academic and medical community, that he was coming for my little ones that I put security on them in the NICU.
When they’d been released home some months later, I went out to my first party. There was Jeffrey Epstein, sucking a lollipop. “Vicky,” he said, “you look so pretty.”www.thedailybeast.com/i-tried-to-warn-you-about-sleazy-billionaire-jeffrey-epstein-in-2003?ref=scroll |
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Post by YankeeFan on Jul 10, 2019 17:08:32 GMT
And, btw, she's right that it was a profile, and not a financial story. But, she doesn't leave everything out about young girls, or Maxwell's role in his life. It would have been better to leave it all out than to write this, which looks gross in hindsight, considering what she actually knew: There are many women in his life, mostly young, but there is no one of them to whom he has been able to commit. He describes his most public companion of the last decade, Ghislaine Maxwell, 41, the daughter of the late, disgraced media baron Robert Maxwell, as simply his “best friend.” He says she is not on his payroll, but she seems to organize much of his life—recently she was making telephone inquiries to find a California-based yoga instructor for him. www.vanityfair.com/news/2003/03/jeffrey-epstein-200303 |
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Post by YankeeFan on Jul 10, 2019 17:13:51 GMT
If only the FBI could have received the information I had gathered some other way than reading it in the pages of Vanity Fair.
But it has often struck me that if my piece had named the women, the FBI might have come after Epstein sooner and perhaps some of his victims...
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Post by YankeeFan on Jul 10, 2019 17:21:11 GMT
This is what she wrote about a man who she says she knew to be a serial sexual predator of children. Epstein is known about town as a man who loves women—lots of them, mostly young. Model types have been heard saying they are full of gratitude to Epstein for flying them around, and he is a familiar face to many of the Victoria’s Secret girls. One young woman recalls being summoned by Ghislaine Maxwell to a concert at Epstein’s town house, where the women seemed to outnumber the men by far. “These were not women you’d see at Upper East Side dinners,” the woman recalls. “Many seemed foreign and dressed a little bizarrely.” This same guest also attended a cocktail party thrown by Maxwell that Prince Andrew attended, which was filled, she says, with young Russian models. “Some of the guests were horrified,” the woman says.
“He’s reckless,” says a former business associate, “and he’s gotten more so. Money does that to you. He’s breaking the oath he made to himself—that he would never do anything that would expose him in the media. Right now, in the wake of the publicity following his trip with Clinton, he must be in a very difficult place.”www.vanityfair.com/news/2003/03/jeffrey-epstein-200303 |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 17:23:25 GMT
I love how everyone has enough info to condemn Carter, Acosta, Dershowitz, and others, but needs a lot more questions answered before they can levy any criticism Ward's way. I don’t know who you’re arguing with. Carter said himself that he believed Epstein over the accusers. As for Acosta, he doesn’t look any different than any of the multitude of prosecutors who go easy on rich and powerful people, although the crime in this case is much more heinous. Dershowitz is a carnival barker. I couldn’t spot Ward in a lineup. But, as DD said, she had the least amount of power of anyone involved, so no one knows for sure how much she did or didn’t do when her initial reporting got spiked. If you know, share it with the class. Also feel free to share how airtight her reporting was in the first place. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 17:24:29 GMT
This is what she wrote about a man who she says she knew to be a serial sexual predator of children. Epstein is known about town as a man who loves women—lots of them, mostly young. Model types have been heard saying they are full of gratitude to Epstein for flying them around, and he is a familiar face to many of the Victoria’s Secret girls. One young woman recalls being summoned by Ghislaine Maxwell to a concert at Epstein’s town house, where the women seemed to outnumber the men by far. “These were not women you’d see at Upper East Side dinners,” the woman recalls. “Many seemed foreign and dressed a little bizarrely.” This same guest also attended a cocktail party thrown by Maxwell that Prince Andrew attended, which was filled, she says, with young Russian models. “Some of the guests were horrified,” the woman says.
“He’s reckless,” says a former business associate, “and he’s gotten more so. Money does that to you. He’s breaking the oath he made to himself—that he would never do anything that would expose him in the media. Right now, in the wake of the publicity following his trip with Clinton, he must be in a very difficult place.”www.vanityfair.com/news/2003/03/jeffrey-epstein-200303What's wrong with it? |
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Post by YankeeFan on Jul 10, 2019 17:43:02 GMT
This is what she wrote about a man who she says she knew to be a serial sexual predator of children. Epstein is known about town as a man who loves women—lots of them, mostly young. Model types have been heard saying they are full of gratitude to Epstein for flying them around, and he is a familiar face to many of the Victoria’s Secret girls. One young woman recalls being summoned by Ghislaine Maxwell to a concert at Epstein’s town house, where the women seemed to outnumber the men by far. “These were not women you’d see at Upper East Side dinners,” the woman recalls. “Many seemed foreign and dressed a little bizarrely.” This same guest also attended a cocktail party thrown by Maxwell that Prince Andrew attended, which was filled, she says, with young Russian models. “Some of the guests were horrified,” the woman says.
“He’s reckless,” says a former business associate, “and he’s gotten more so. Money does that to you. He’s breaking the oath he made to himself—that he would never do anything that would expose him in the media. Right now, in the wake of the publicity following his trip with Clinton, he must be in a very difficult place.”www.vanityfair.com/news/2003/03/jeffrey-epstein-200303What's wrong with it? He's so nice! He flies young model types (that's a great term, btw. Not Models. Model types. So, young, foreign and attractive, but not actual models.) around, and they are full of gratitude. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 17:45:55 GMT
Whenever I read another of DD's daily free-form delusions, I recall the line from "M*A*S*H": "It's another of Col. Flagg's red herrings." Someone call this dude’s parents and get this child back where he belongs because it’s sad to watch him piss his pants like this on a daily basis trying to engage in the discourse. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 17:53:39 GMT
He's so nice! He flies young model types (that's a great term, btw. Not Models. Model types. So, young, foreign and attractive, but not actual models.) around, and they are full of gratitude. One could even say he was a “terrific guy,” amirite? |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 17:54:03 GMT
He's so nice! He flies young model types (that's a great term, btw. Not Models. Model types. So, young, foreign and attractive, but not actual models.) around, and they are full of gratitude. I am not sure what excerpt you're reading, but it's not the one you posted. |
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Post by xanadu on Jul 10, 2019 17:56:12 GMT
What's the point of this blame game being he was got?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 17:58:39 GMT
And, I know many of you don’t get outside of your own media bubble ... Just want to make sure this gem didn't get lost in the wash. |
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Post by Da Man on Jul 10, 2019 18:59:55 GMT
He's so nice! He flies young model types (that's a great term, btw. Not Models. Model types. So, young, foreign and attractive, but not actual models.) around, and they are full of gratitude. The young ladies who were arrested along with Michael Irvin in a cocaine-filled hotel room in 1996 described themselves as "self-employed models." |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2019 19:01:05 GMT
"Instagram model" is the term of art today.
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