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Post by sharky, Hunter’s text buddy on Jun 25, 2019 17:47:08 GMT
Is it necessarily sexual that he's dancing in a gay bar? It certainly could be, but we're not talking about strip clubs here (I assume we would have heard if that were the case). And it would definitely be weird if it was a 10-year-old girl dancing in a regular bar for tips. The whole subculture is so alien to me that I have no idea what's sexual and what's not. My only frame of reference here is RuPaul. (Although I have a high school friend who I see on social media moonlighting as Shimmy Hendrix every now and again.) Go to a proper drag show (something everyone should do at least once) and get back to us. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 17:59:27 GMT
I think people are right to point out the discomfort of the sexualization. That’s really bad it a lot of ways. But I don’t think I can really fault the decision to allow him to cross dress. If he wants to do it, let him. But I wouldn't want a 10-year-old girl to wear makeup, either. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 18:01:42 GMT
Yeah, I think I'm with you on that. I just have very little frame of reference for the culture of gay bars, and even less of one for drag, and I'm acutely aware of that as I read these stories. Also, your simultaneous discussions on this thread and the music thread are delightful. All your mental imagery this morning is devoted to dancing in different types of bars! Which is funny since I don't drink and I haven't been to a strip club since a bachelor party 12 years ago...  I've been in gay bars before. My cousin, who is the closest thing I have to a brother, is gay. Gay bars are basically like most regular bars, with different music.  Safe to say I've never been to a drag bar. Although, isn't just about every bar in New Orleans a drag bar? I think I've been to a gay bar on Mass Avenue in Indianapolis a few times, but it might have just been a regular bar where a lot of gay people happened to hang out because that's the neighborhood. We've gone there with a gay friend of ours and his husband. |
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Post by dirtybird on Jun 25, 2019 18:08:07 GMT
This seems like a weird phenomenon, which is being embraced by the media. Whatever consenting adults do is fine with me, but -- and not very differently than the JonBenet style beauty contests -- these kids are seemingly being sexualized by their parents, and are often performing for the gratification of adults. Desmond, for example, performs in gay bars, for tips. So, why the celebration of it? In a large part, it’s being put out front and center because it triggers and offends. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 18:09:26 GMT
This seems like a weird phenomenon, which is being embraced by the media. Whatever consenting adults do is fine with me, but -- and not very differently than the JonBenet style beauty contests -- these kids are seemingly being sexualized by their parents, and are often performing for the gratification of adults. Desmond, for example, performs in gay bars, for tips. So, why the celebration of it? In a large part, it’s being put out front and center because it triggers and offends. But how does that make people any better than Trump and pals saying and doing outrageous, self-defeating things to "pwn the libs"? It's worse, in fact, because this utilizes children as pawns. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 18:12:55 GMT
Who needs horror movies when you have these images out there.
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Post by mizzougrad96 on Jun 25, 2019 18:14:02 GMT
To reference the other thread, stuff like this makes a pretty significant impact.
You can be as pro LGBTQ as can be, but you get to something like this, with little kids and people hit a hard stop.
And sadly, it becomes, "If you support that, I don't support you..."
I'm not saying I agree with it. I'm saying that's reality.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 19:01:06 GMT
Is it appropriate to take my kids to a bar so they can watch child drag performers?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 19:03:35 GMT
Is it appropriate to take my kids to a bar so they can watch child drag performers? Only in Wisconsin. |
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Post by dirtybird on Jun 25, 2019 19:04:13 GMT
In a large part, it’s being put out front and center because it triggers and offends. But how does that make people any better than Trump and pals saying and doing outrageous, self-defeating things to "pwn the libs"? It's worse, in fact, because this utilizes children as pawns. It’s being brought to someone like YF because mad people hate consume. That’s why Mashable and some TV station are bringing it to you and promoting it. Why are the people whose kids that are putting it front and center? Well because they’re garbage and insane. And alas, garbage and insane people have a easy time making their kids into a thing to get attention. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2019 19:18:09 GMT
Is it necessarily sexual that he's dancing in a gay bar? It certainly could be, but we're not talking about strip clubs here (I assume we would have heard if that were the case). And it would definitely be weird if it was a 10-year-old girl dancing in a regular bar for tips. The whole subculture is so alien to me that I have no idea what's sexual and what's not. My only frame of reference here is RuPaul. (Although I have a high school friend who I see on social media moonlighting as Shimmy Hendrix every now and again.) Go to a proper drag show (something everyone should do at least once) and get back to us. I think pallister , @hepennypacker and I need to get drag brunch on the calendar. Surely that won't necessitate any sarcastic explanations to children! |
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Post by xanadu on Jun 25, 2019 19:25:11 GMT
But how does that make people any better than Trump and pals saying and doing outrageous, self-defeating things to "pwn the libs"? It's worse, in fact, because this utilizes children as pawns. It’s being brought to someone like YF because mad people hate consume. That’s why Mashable and some TV station are bringing it to you and promoting it. Why are the people whose kids that are putting it front and center? Well because they’re garbage and insane. And alas, garbage and insane people have a easy time making their kids into a thing to get attention. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 26, 2019 11:46:34 GMT
Go to a proper drag show (something everyone should do at least once) and get back to us. I think pallister , @hepennypacker and I need to get drag brunch on the calendar. Surely that won't necessitate any sarcastic explanations to children! Ha, isn't there a place downtown that does this? Godfrey's maybe? |
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Post by fechet on Jun 26, 2019 17:16:28 GMT
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Post by YankeeFan on Feb 17, 2020 17:25:38 GMT
Desmond appears to be doing well.
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