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Post by gordonbombay on Aug 5, 2023 17:26:18 GMT
Perhaps this is all a long con to blame/over throw/pack the partisan Supreme Court when they throw this out in 1st ammendment grounds in 2027. Dems playing chess.
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Post by oop on Aug 5, 2023 18:34:30 GMT
Yes. It’s really troubling when opposition leaders are locked up on politically motivated charges. You really are a sucker for any nonsense Trump and his minions put out there. Based on your logic, running for political office would always offer a shield for anyone facing criminal charges.
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Post by oop on Aug 5, 2023 18:37:01 GMT
I hope oop doesn’t see this. Why? I've been asking you to present something like this for days. You've been insisting it was everywhere and you finally came up with one link. I'm aware that the case is not a slam dunk, but your stance seems to be that anybody can say anything they want. That would be a hell of a boon for people who commit fraud. Turley seems reasonable and he presents some compelling arguments, but it is just his opinion, one that is not held by the majority of legal analysts. He even admits that his own Libertarian biases influence his opinion. He doesn't write it in exactly those words, but that's what he is doing.
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Post by YankeeFan on Aug 5, 2023 22:04:53 GMT
The sequel just isn't as good as the original. Too many recycled jokes.
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Post by batman on Aug 5, 2023 22:48:37 GMT
The sequel just isn't as good as the original. Too many recycled jokes.
In all seriousness, Trump needs to tread carefully with comments like that. Considering the facts of the case, a charge of witness tampering or witness intimidation seems like it could be added and have some teeth to it.
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Post by oop on Aug 6, 2023 4:22:13 GMT
The sequel just isn't as good as the original. Too many recycled jokes.
In all seriousness, Trump needs to tread carefully with comments like that. Considering the facts of the case, a charge of witness tampering or witness intimidation seems like it could be added and have some teeth to it.
You make a fair point, but he does seem to believe that he is immune to consequences for his actions. He also believes that is as it should be. His legal strategy seems to be to run out the clock as best he can, cry election interference louder and louder as next November approaches, and hope none of it gets settled before the actual election rolls around.
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Post by stoney on Aug 6, 2023 11:18:48 GMT
The sequel just isn't as good as the original. Too many recycled jokes.
In all seriousness, Trump needs to tread carefully with comments like that. Considering the facts of the case, a charge of witness tampering or witness intimidation seems like it could be added and have some teeth to it.
He doesn't understand the concept of defense. His natural instincts always tell him to attack ...even when it's a really dumb thing to do.
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Post by oop on Aug 6, 2023 21:29:00 GMT
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Post by frantic on Aug 6, 2023 22:53:04 GMT
Both of those are extreme longshots. Change of venue should be nearly impossible with as large of a jury pool as you get in a city with 600,000 residents. You only need 12 (Really 14 or 15 with a high profile case like this). Timothy McVeigh's trial is the only high-profile federal case I can recall that got a change of venue and while Jan. 6 was horrendous, I don't think it's in the same ballpark. If they did grant a change of venue request, it would almost certainly go to Maryland or the Eastern District of Virginia, and not West Virginia like he wants. Judge isn't gonna recuse herself unless they have something really damning that isn't already public knowledge.
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Post by oop on Aug 7, 2023 10:00:48 GMT
Both of those are extreme longshots. Change of venue should be nearly impossible with as large of a jury pool as you get in a city with 600,000 residents. You only need 12 (Really 14 or 15 with a high profile case like this). Timothy McVeigh's trial is the only high-profile federal case I can recall that got a change of venue and while Jan. 6 was horrendous, I don't think it's in the same ballpark. If they did grant a change of venue request, it would almost certainly go to Maryland or the Eastern District of Virginia, and not West Virginia like he wants. Judge isn't gonna recuse herself unless they have something really damning that isn't already public knowledge. You don't think it will be good enough for them to claim they have something damning and to repeatedly promise they will present it in two weeks?
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Post by elcircogrande on Aug 7, 2023 13:26:29 GMT
I love this new right-wing strategy of describing their own actions as vaguely as possible to make any investigation sound incredibly sinister. If the Hunter Biden story had happened to a Republican*, the defense now would be something like "Oh, so it's illegal to introduce your friends to your dad?"
*If it happened to a Republican today. When Jared Kushner was getting bankrolled by the Saudi government, the right was still in its "The Trump guy didn't do it, and if he did, it was good that he did it" era.
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Post by Ridiculously Dull Bobby on Aug 7, 2023 13:51:13 GMT
That’s not really new, but it’s been taken to a whole new level in the Trump era.
“Since when is it illegal to visit the Capitol?!?!?”
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Post by ecwyanks on Aug 8, 2023 15:22:39 GMT
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Post by elcircogrande on Aug 9, 2023 17:11:40 GMT
It's not a cult!
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Post by oop on Aug 15, 2023 10:19:27 GMT
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