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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 11:47:27 GMT
It’s pretty much textbook Overton Window shifting. We’ve gotten to the point where the dominant political party won’t accept anything as racist short of burning a cross. Wrong. Because Robert Byrd, or something. All the great points @ltl made recently had me thinking back to the weekend when there were actual murders at a synagogue and this place spent the entire weekend bemoaning the anti-Semitism of...the New York Times. It really can’t be racist if it comes from the right.
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Post by Dr Boom 70 on Jul 15, 2019 12:01:57 GMT
What country should AOC "go back to" Boom? Yorktown Heights? Yorktown Heights? I thought she was from The Bronx.
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Post by frantic on Jul 15, 2019 12:36:06 GMT
It’s pretty much textbook Overton Window shifting. We’ve gotten to the point where the dominant political party won’t accept anything as racist short of burning a cross. I'm sure even that would get some mealy mouthed defense about Scottish tradition and it being unfairly appropriated by the Klan and it's not really racist to burn crosses.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 12:42:48 GMT
This is what happens when there are no left-leaning posters on this board, All you alt-righters can talk about is “brown people.” They have names. How about a little respect for these women?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 12:47:53 GMT
It’s pretty much textbook Overton Window shifting. We’ve gotten to the point where the dominant political party won’t accept anything as racist short of burning a cross. I'm sure even that would get some mealy mouthed defense about Scottish tradition and it being unfairly appropriated by the Klan and it's not really racist to burn crosses. And you are the REAL problem for being mean to the cross-burners.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 12:58:11 GMT
The previous page reads like a bunch of old biddies angrily gossiping over a game of canasta.
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Post by YankeeFan on Jul 15, 2019 13:08:52 GMT
Terrible, horrible thing to say, but as long as we’re talking about sending people back, CNN’s Ana Navarro has her list ready.
Who’s on your list? LOL.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 13:09:50 GMT
Terrible, horrible thing to say, but as long as we’re talking about sending people back, CNN’s Ana Navarro has her list ready. Who’s on your list? LOL. Is she the President?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 13:10:50 GMT
You guys are not obligated to defend this shitbag.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 13:12:39 GMT
It is refreshing to see YF not twisting in knots to defend/explain this tweet away. But every acknowledgment he has made of how awful it is has been paired with a shot at someone else, either the press or the dems.
But it is still progress, so I'll take it.
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Post by YankeeFan on Jul 15, 2019 13:16:29 GMT
Terrible, horrible thing to say, but as long as we’re talking about sending people back, CNN’s Ana Navarro has her list ready. Who’s on your list? LOL. Is she the President? No. But it’s incredible. Just as Trump is unable to sit back as his opponents set themselves on fire, his critics have the same problem. When you respond in kind, you lessen the impact of what Trump said/did, and we see it all the time.
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Post by xanadu on Jul 15, 2019 13:18:33 GMT
Doesn't matter what kind of poo-poo happens right now.
The millennials and 18-21's will or will not determine 2020.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 13:20:33 GMT
This is a very smart thread of tweets that explains so much of the behavior of so many conservatives, particularly a few of a our friends on this board. We might as well call it the Pallister/Old Tony Doctrine.
"Did Donald Trump rape E. Carroll Jean?"
For a Republican, the answer isn't yes or no, it's: "who gives a shit?"
The next step is finding the reason not to give a shit.
Any reason will do.
They don't care so much, they resent even the suggestion they should care.
They use the fact that people think they should care as a reason to not care.
Again, any reason will do.
It's not about the reason. It's about not caring.
The appeal of Trump is permission to not care.
We can't understand how every single awful boorish stupid uncaring callous and downright hateful thing he says doesn't torpedo him
It's because that's the whole appeal. The fact that he doesn't care about the harm he does is license to not care
More: to not even have to pretend
What we're learning is just how many people have been pretending at the most basic human decency
They've HATED feeling compelled to pretend. They so love the license to stop
They can't imagine anybody isn't pretending
When they run into virtue, they call it "virtue signalling"
Most fine qualities have their corresponding sneering epithet, designed to allow the person viewing it to avoid the natural conviction toward decency, another excuse to avoid caring:
Empathy? "Snowflake." Inclusivity? "Safe Space." Integrity? "Social Justice Warrior"
The entire framework rests on a bedrock assumption, that some people matter, others don't, and it's perfectly fine to say or do anything you want to defeat those that don't matter, for whatever value of "defeat" you can get away with being seen making yourself comfortable with.
This is how you can tell. Ask them if they care about [thing any human should care about]
Answer: OBAMA DID IT FIRST
What is that?
I'll tell you what that is.
It's permission to not care.
Is it true Obama did it first? Answer: So what?
Even if true (usually not), so what? Do you, human being I'm talking to, give a shit?
Answer: No. They don't. Their only program is to convince themselves YOU don't.
So they can go back to not caring
"DEMOCRATS FOUNDED THE KKK"
What is that? It's permission to not care about racism today.
It's license to not give a shit about the KKK, or confederates, or those who would ally with them, or where those people align ideologically, today.
Any excuse will do.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2019 13:22:14 GMT
No. But it’s incredible. Just as Trump is unable to sit back as his opponents set themselves on fire, his critics have the same problem. When you respond in kind, you lessen the impact of what Trump said/did, and we see it all the time. There are 350 million people in this country. Some of them are morons. All of them, in 2019, have some kind of outlet. Only one of them is the President of the United States.
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Post by btexpress on Jul 15, 2019 13:28:02 GMT
When everything is racist, nothing is racist. That's the bed your side made. Come on, Tony. You didn’t even support this yayhoo in the primaries. You don’t owe him this. I’ve defended Trump against overreactions so many times I’m in constant need of a shower. But telling minorities to go back tho their countries is Overt Racism 101. It’s not dropping an n-bomb, but it’s the closest thing yet to him impulsively blurting out what a lot of people have always suspected he feels. There's one thing about this that gnaws at me. My wife can be highly critical of America (though she does acknowledge our postal system kicks ass!). If someone hears her bitching about America and tells this pasty white person to go back to Russia . . . is that "racism"? Seems easy to call it that when we're telling brown people to go back to their brown countries. But the line blurs a little if you're telling a white person to go back to their white countries.
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