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Post by doctorquant on Nov 7, 2018 16:32:47 GMT
I'm tired of talking about politics, so ...
Been thinking a lot lately about my current gig and how it really hasn't turned out like I'd envisioned. The basics -- the job security, the intellectual freedom, the money -- have pretty much held up. And maybe it's just where I am in my life, what with the looming empty nest and all, but I've started to think about other things that I'd anticipated that really haven't materialized. For example, TFDQ has one of the big roles in her school's production of A Midsummer Night's Dream. Opening night is tomorrow night ... when I'm going to be teaching a class. Stuff like that ... it's starting to get old.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 16:44:44 GMT
This sounds like Dick/Don complaining about being fat.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 16:50:51 GMT
My job isn’t perfect, but the lifestyle it enables for my family is pretty close.
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Post by YankeeFan on Nov 7, 2018 16:59:18 GMT
I'm tired of talking about politics, so ...
Been thinking a lot lately about my current gig and how it really hasn't turned out like I'd envisioned. The basics -- the job security, the intellectual freedom, the money -- have pretty much held up. And maybe it's just where I am in my life, what with the looming empty nest and all, but I've started to think about other things that I'd anticipated that really haven't materialized. For example, TFDQ has one of the big roles in her school's production of A Midsummer Night's Dream. Opening night is tomorrow night ... when I'm going to be teaching a class. Stuff like that ... it's starting to get old.
Do you have to teach nights?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 17:01:47 GMT
Funny you start this thread now ... in an hour I have a call with our new boss, who is going around the staff to discuss everyone's hopes and dreams. My big fear is that they're going to want me to do more and get into a management role. I'm going to tell my new boss, "You know, I hate to sound like I have no ambition, but in five years I want to be doing THIS job." I can exercise in the early afternoon if I want to, I cut out early for practice when I'm coaching, etc. etc. Shit, I can have my other computer on SJ Rejects all day! I'm essentially on my own.
I was so burned out at the end of my newspaper time nine years ago that I actively sought jobs I wouldn't care about. I started freelance work from home in government services (private industry going for contracts), and it was the first time in my life I had a "job" and not a "career." I loved it. It changed everything about me. And I still love that part of it.
The job is ... the guy who got me into it sold it as "not as boring as it sounds." That's the perfect description. I'm now in healthcare, full-time but still from home, and I'll keep this gig as long as I can because there's almost nothing in the schedule that forces me to miss any family or friend events. I actually get into the work a little bit for the puzzle-solving aspect of it, and also because my writing skills are valued to the point that I get praise from all corners for really doing nothing but a basic copy-edit/trim for space. In addition, this might surprise all of you dickheads, but I have a rep for being very easy to work with, to the point that when another section is in real trouble, they ask me to take it over and rehab it.
So, in a nutshell, I like my job, but that's mostly because I love everything else around my job.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 17:06:20 GMT
My job isn’t perfect, but the lifestyle it enables for my family is pretty close. That's what I chose, as well - time, not money, though. As far as the job itself, it has its pluses and minuses. On the one hand, I miss working on big cases for big clients on big teams at my old Chicago gig. The matters were typically interesting and for either huge dollar amounts at stake, or pro bono matters that could be life-or-death. There was also a lot that was bad about it. I left for work at 6 a.m. and got home between 7 and 8. Some days - some weeks - I wouldn't have shit to do, because of the cyclical nature of things, and then, right when I'd be sitting down to watch the Bulls or Blackhawks game or the fucking Final Four on a Saturday night, buzz goes the cell phone. And the cases might have been big, but sometimes I'd be doing tedious work on them, like making a Power Point for some muckety muck partner. Also, you felt like you were constantly being judged - and you were, due to the up-or-out business model. I've been called a "failurist" on these boards for not making partner there, but the truth is, like 5 percent of people who start eventually make partner. It's a long road and you give up a lot, in both time and individuality. Pay's good, though, and you feel like you've made it. This is important: I left 100 percent on my own accord. I could have stayed at least 3 or 4 more years before being nudged out, and I'd have had no problem finding another high-paying job at a smaller but lucrative downtown firm. My new job is in an office with 3 1/2 other lawyers. My boss is pretty domineering, which is understandable - it's his business. But he's a decent guy, and gives me a lot of freedom to write, for example, or go to court and argue, or plot strategy for some of our bigger cases. There's also a lot of keep-the-lights on bullshit that I have to do - harranguing deadbeats for pay for their fucking roofs, battling with little old ladies over late fees on their home loans. That kind of stuff. But I'm home a little after 6 and nobody bothers me at night or on the weekends. I coach Little League. I've seen the entire run of "Breaking Bad," and 1 1/2 seasons of "Stranger Things." But I can't say it's not weird sometimes to have a degree from the University of Chicago, five-plus years at a Top 15 national firm, and be working here. If you asked me where I'm going to be in five years, assuming I'm still above ground, of course, I would have no clue. I can't figure out if I'm satisfied or not. As much as the media focus is on women "having it all," it's tough for men to have it all, too. And, generally, if women opt out of the rat race, people are sympathetic. Men have failed. And that's not me taking too much to heart what someone on the Internet says to intentionally trigger me - it's definitely part of the zeitgeist/in the air. My biggest struggle - and this has been the case whether it was at my two newspapers gigs, or my big law firm job or, now, here, is that I feel that I'm really good at what I do, but nobody ever really has a way of knowing that, because I always for some reason end up buried on the bench behind other people, making them look good. Nobody who matters has ever known who the fuck I am. When it comes down to it, I don't really like working for other people. But I suck at networking and I hate chatting up strangers, so I would have a difficult time with the client-building aspects of being an entrepreneur. Plus, we're not really in the risk-taking phase of our life. I'll talk to Mrs. Whitman at times about whatever it is I might find unsatisfying and her answer is typically some version of, "Well, yeah, most people hate their jobs. Get over it." It's a little rough, because she has a calling and I guess I don't. Not a week goes by when I don't damn the six years I spent covering preps because I thought I was paying my dues.
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Post by mizzougrad96 on Nov 7, 2018 17:41:59 GMT
For me working from home is the best. I've been doing that for six years. I have a travel a bit, but trips are usually an overnight or 2 nights away tops...
If you told me I would have the exact same job in 5-10 years, I would be very content with that.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 17:43:19 GMT
For me working from home is the best. I've been doing that for six years. I have a travel a bit, but trips are usually an overnight or 2 nights away tops... If you told me I would have the exact same job in 5-10 years, I would be very content with that. Me, too, because that means I wouldn’t have been laid off.
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Post by Da Man on Nov 7, 2018 17:50:38 GMT
I'm kind of on LTL's wavelength. I have no desire to be anyone's boss. In fact, I am NOT anyone's boss, and that is very much by design -- when they reworked the organizational chart a year or so ago, they wanted me to have a couple of people report to me and I told them, "If it's all the same to you, I'd rather not." That's because every time I have been in any kind of leadership position, it has been a disaster (that includes serving as assistant coach of my youngest daughter's 12-year-old soccer team, BTW)
I like my job for what it is -- low stress (for the most part) work that I feel comfortable doing and comes easily to me (again, for the most part) and has regular 9-to-5, no-weekend hours. It fits me as someone well into his 50s who has no desire to deal with the crap involved with my previous newspaper career.
That said, I am getting ready to relocate to another state as soon as my divorce is final and I am likely going to have to change jobs (working remotely is probably not going to be an option here), so I'm looking to change jobs -- which concerns me more than a little.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 18:17:42 GMT
When I lost my regular job a few years ago, without warning, I was pretty devastated. It was the career I loved, had always loved, and had had great success at. Yes, I miss the paycheck and, more importantly, the benefits, but mostly I miss interacting with many people every day.
I'm fortunate that I had also had a side gig for a number of years and it has kept me housed and fed, but I miss the daily interactions. Now, the most I really deal with people is to tell the server to take the steak back because it's undercooked (who am I kidding... I can't afford steak!).
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Post by mizzougrad96 on Nov 7, 2018 18:25:32 GMT
For me working from home is the best. I've been doing that for six years. I have a travel a bit, but trips are usually an overnight or 2 nights away tops... If you told me I would have the exact same job in 5-10 years, I would be very content with that. Me, too, because that means I wouldn’t have been laid off. I was laid off twice in 2008 and 2010 and I've never recovered from that. When you are doing well and working your ass off and getting great reviews and it's still not enough, you don't get over that. I have a very good job that I enjoy and I'm good at, but every time I have a review or have to meet with management, my mind goes places where there is no logical reason to go.
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Post by rustinjice on Nov 7, 2018 18:27:22 GMT
My current gig is a Monday-Friday day job, where my work responsibilities stop the minute I leave the office every afternoon, and don't start again until I return.
I couldn't be happier and I really, really, really don't miss newspapers.
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Post by mizzougrad96 on Nov 7, 2018 18:34:49 GMT
My current gig is a Monday-Friday day job, where my work responsibilities stop the minute I leave the office every afternoon, and don't start again until I return. I couldn't be happier and I really, really, really don't miss newspapers. I had one of those for five years and it was great... My current job is more demanding, but I make about $30K more a year, so I'll deal with it. The only time I miss newspapers are a handful of times when I know all the writers are at the same place where everybody gets to really hang out. The combine was my favorite event to cover for that reason. I'd meet people there who were friends of friends and almost instantly there would be a ton of camaraderie. I don't miss anything about the actual job.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 18:49:47 GMT
My current gig is a Monday-Friday day job, where my work responsibilities stop the minute I leave the office every afternoon, and don't start again until I return. I couldn't be happier and I really, really, really don't miss newspapers. 100 percent. I got out of "the business" and into marketing about 6-7 years ago and have maintained steady employment and promotions ever since. While the paycheck and benefits are great, the non-work bonuses are the best part. I'm healthier. I have a better social life. I spend more time with my parents. I was able to meet an incredible woman who I am marrying in about 7 months (holy shit). I get to travel to places that don't even have high school football. What I write about now is boring as hell, at least in comparison to covering sports. And there is always the usual crap that comes with working for any company. But my life is better by magnitudes.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2018 19:12:59 GMT
My current gig is a Monday-Friday day job, where my work responsibilities stop the minute I leave the office every afternoon, and don't start again until I return. I couldn't be happier and I really, really, really don't miss newspapers. What I write about now is boring as hell, at least in comparison to covering sports. This is a part I kind of think sucks, even though none of us would admit it while we were in the job. I think I took it for granted, because I hated when other people said it, but: I got paid to think about sports 8+ hours a day!
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