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Post by ecwyanks on Mar 20, 2022 15:43:43 GMT
And they had absolutely no idea anyone else would take it another way.
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Post by Ridiculously Dull Bobby on Mar 20, 2022 15:45:30 GMT
Details are a bunch of bullshit.
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Post by YankeeFan on Mar 20, 2022 17:39:22 GMT
Regardless of their intent — that they are Olympic teammates, and wanted to take a picture together — this picture speaks volumes.
They took it in the medal platform, with the fourth place finisher, while Lia was still standing there, towering over them, with a weird grin on her face.
I realize two of them have made supportive comments in regards to Lia’s participation (is there any other option), but it still shows Lia off to the side, while the top three, legitimate finishers, as seen by many, took a picture together.
It’s striking.
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Post by TyWebb on Mar 20, 2022 18:00:07 GMT
If you have a preset narrative you want verification for, it’s striking and speaks volumes.
Otherwise, it’s just another awkward staged photo of four women, three of whom are close friends.
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Post by asthecrowflies on Mar 20, 2022 18:29:25 GMT
A few things can be true at the same time:
- The three are legitimately friends who wanted a picture on the podium.
- It's hard to believe they didn't think about the significance of taking the picture with Thomas still standing there. The fourth person just HAPPENED to be the fourth place finisher. Passive agressiveness is a thing.
- There is a huge amount of pressure to be "supportive" of Thomas. People just don't want to rock the boat. I don't blame them. If I were competing, I'd just shut my mouth in public and complain to my friends privately.
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Post by shotglass on Mar 20, 2022 19:45:18 GMT
Regardless of their intent — that they are Olympic teammates, and wanted to take a picture together — this picture speaks volumes. They took it in the medal platform, with the fourth place finisher, while Lia was still standing there, towering over them, with a weird grin on her face. I realize two of them have made supportive comments in regards to Lia’s participation (is there any other option), but it still shows Lia off to the side, while the top three, legitimate finishers, as seen by many, took a picture together. It’s striking. There was this photo of a white police officer holding a gun in his hand which he recovered after a black man committed suicide on the spot. But damn, the picture certainly could make a case for police brutality, couldn't it. It should win a Pulitzer. |
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Post by Ridiculously Dull Bobby on Mar 20, 2022 20:12:34 GMT
Regardless of their intent — that they are Olympic teammates, and wanted to take a picture together — this picture speaks volumes. They took it in the medal platform, with the fourth place finisher, while Lia was still standing there, towering over them, with a weird grin on her face. I realize two of them have made supportive comments in regards to Lia’s participation (is there any other option), but it still shows Lia off to the side, while the top three, legitimate finishers, as seen by many, took a picture together. It’s striking. LOL. |
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Post by Whitman on Mar 20, 2022 22:25:07 GMT
Regardless of their intent — that they are Olympic teammates, and wanted to take a picture together — this picture speaks volumes. They took it in the medal platform, with the fourth place finisher, while Lia was still standing there, towering over them, with a weird grin on her face. I realize two of them have made supportive comments in regards to Lia’s participation (is there any other option), but it still shows Lia off to the side, while the top three, legitimate finishers, as seen by many, took a picture together. It’s striking. It could have happened! |
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Post by YankeeFan on Mar 23, 2022 2:07:57 GMT
Disney is trying so hard to calm its own employees.
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Post by gordonbombay on Mar 23, 2022 2:18:32 GMT
I thought the espn/disney woke tweet walkout was over Florida law not the swimming
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2022 12:51:08 GMT
There’s a very simple solution to all of this: Make medical transition a requirement for participation. It mitigates advantages that trans girls/women might have and is better for the kids in question. Agreed?
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Post by YankeeFan on Mar 23, 2022 12:57:54 GMT
There’s a very simple solution to all of this: Make medical transition a requirement for participation. It mitigates advantages that trans girls/women might have and is better for the kids in question. Agreed? The trans community and their allies would not see this as an acceptable compromise. Many never have bottom surgery, and if they do, it’s years into the transition. Would be like suggesting shrimp as a compromise to a vegetarian. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 23, 2022 12:58:56 GMT
There’s a very simple solution to all of this: Make medical transition a requirement for participation. It mitigates advantages that trans girls/women might have and is better for the kids in question. Agreed? The trans community and their allies would not see this as an acceptable compromise. Many never have bottom surgery, and if they do, it’s years into the transition. Would be like suggesting shrimp as a compromise to a vegetarian. Would anyone else involved in the trans discussion have any objections? |
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Post by sharky, Hunter’s text buddy on Mar 25, 2022 21:31:39 GMT
Just catching up with all of this, but the first thing I though about this was Title IX. Doesn’t that put this whole thing in a bind, because these are schools, which makes the way it is handled different than Olympic committees and things like that? Schools that receive federal funding can’t discriminate based on sex, and although we can argue whether that should apply here, is that why this has occurred?
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Post by gordonbombay on Mar 25, 2022 22:37:26 GMT
Title IX is becoming a massive problem in that depending on if the White House is occupied by an elephant or a donkey, the DOJ will use it to protect “women” like Thomas or “women” like the ones on the losing end of all these races.
One can argue both are being discriminated against. Both will claim the other argument is in bad faith. So title ix is largely a stalemate beholden to political winds on the issue
(If there were suit brought on title ix grounds it might end up at the Supreme Court which is why asking a new justice to define a woman isn’t a bad faith question but oh well)
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