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Post by YankeeFan on Aug 10, 2018 11:51:05 GMT
Thanks. I’ll check that out.
Meanwhile, this in response to that column is pretty funny.
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Post by jaketaylor on Aug 11, 2018 1:19:16 GMT
Are you trying to make me start off my day angry?  I'm trying to remember the timeline. What day did PW2 express his skepticism? I think it was minutes after the story was posted. The good reason to believe Jackie was lying was the same reason to believe that Santa Claus was lying. In broad terms, the story didn't ring true. I could go through it line by line and explain why, as PW2 did. PW2, of course, was correct. I have to admit, I bought it at first. The big reason is, living in Charlottesville, I'd overhear UVa kids say stuff that did make it ring true to me. If she had set out to write fiction, it could have been great. She went there and got a sense of the vibe at UVa, ala Tom Wolfe's novels. The problem, obviously, is when you present it as journalism vibes aren't equal to facts. |
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Post by xanadu on Aug 11, 2018 14:28:02 GMT
LOL, Noem hates higher education. But man, she won the vote of local soybean farmers cabal!
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Post by xanadu on Aug 11, 2018 14:31:20 GMT
Are you trying to make me start off my day angry? I'm trying to remember the timeline. What day did PW2 express his skepticism? I think it was minutes after the story was posted. The good reason to believe Jackie was lying was the same reason to believe that Santa Claus was lying. In broad terms, the story didn't ring true. I could go through it line by line and explain why, as PW2 did. PW2, of course, was correct. I have to admit, I bought it at first. The big reason is, living in Charlottesville, I'd overhear UVa kids say stuff that did make it ring true to me. If she had set out to write fiction, it could have been great. She went there and got a sense of the vibe at UVa, ala Tom Wolfe's novels. The problem, obviously, is when you present it as journalism vibes aren't equal to facts. I knew the story was most likely fake soon as I got to the part of how she was fucked atop the glass table, which supposedly shattered everywhere, and yet there was nothing about how her back and neck and ass and back of her legs would have been all cut up and bloody. The shattered glass table is where it all goes to pieces, so to speak. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 11, 2018 15:04:26 GMT
I have to admit, I bought it at first. The big reason is, living in Charlottesville, I'd overhear UVa kids say stuff that did make it ring true to me. If she had set out to write fiction, it could have been great. She went there and got a sense of the vibe at UVa, ala Tom Wolfe's novels. The problem, obviously, is when you present it as journalism vibes aren't equal to facts. I knew the story was most likely fake soon as I got to the part of how she was fucked atop the glass table, which supposedly shattered everywhere, and yet there was nothing about how her back and neck and ass and back of her legs would have been all cut up and bloody. The shattered glass table is where it all goes to pieces, so to speak. The (ultimately correct) skeptical talk on UVA message boards was centered on the low probability of a glass-top table surviving in a frat house for any length of time. |
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Post by YankeeFan on Aug 12, 2018 15:54:04 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 2:51:13 GMT
Oh, my God. That’s hysterical.
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Post by batman on Aug 13, 2018 3:19:55 GMT
Why is it even a story then? |
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Post by Dr Boom 70 on Aug 13, 2018 11:46:32 GMT
Why is it even a story then? Hilarious. The NYT cant get out of its own way |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2018 14:18:17 GMT
That story and those tweets are from a year and a half ago.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 15, 2018 1:45:52 GMT
On the initial thread topic: www.gq.com/story/andrew-sullivan-white-people-power-dynamics“I have a theory that many of the online outbursts on issues like cultural appropriation or what seem to outsiders as mundane slights are rooted in a kind of childhood trauma—racism at the very development stage when in-group bonding and belonging feel critical. Often when you talk to young writers of color about why they are so mad about seemingly inoffensive events, they will recall a searing incident from their youth or times when beloved family members were cut down in humiliating ways related to race. Among the tweets activists dug up, Jeong refers to being teased for 12 years by white kids for eating kimchi, and in another, she recounts “I don't have an accent and it makes me sick when I see how white people treat my parents vs. me.” Across the country, kids who experienced this kind of formative-years racism eventually grew up and found each other in college and later online, and so these communal primal screams about white people have become something of common ritual, particularly as they have gained positions in places of cultural prominence. This is not leftist indoctrination, as right-wing cranks assert, but a generational shift as groups, who were previously terrified of speaking out, have gained just enough social standing to do so. “That said, understandable private feelings are quite different from defensible public statements. And Twitter, where cynical outrage takes precedence over resolution and equanimity, might just be the worst possible place to work out childhood and generational traumas, even if it's become a socially acceptable one among a certain milieu.” |
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Post by Dr Boom 70 on Aug 15, 2018 9:45:51 GMT
On the initial thread topic: www.gq.com/story/andrew-sullivan-white-people-power-dynamics“I have a theory that many of the online outbursts on issues like cultural appropriation or what seem to outsiders as mundane slights are rooted in a kind of childhood trauma—racism at the very development stage when in-group bonding and belonging feel critical. Often when you talk to young writers of color about why they are so mad about seemingly inoffensive events, they will recall a searing incident from their youth or times when beloved family members were cut down in humiliating ways related to race. Among the tweets activists dug up, Jeong refers to being teased for 12 years by white kids for eating kimchi, and in another, she recounts “I don't have an accent and it makes me sick when I see how white people treat my parents vs. me.” Across the country, kids who experienced this kind of formative-years racism eventually grew up and found each other in college and later online, and so these communal primal screams about white people have become something of common ritual, particularly as they have gained positions in places of cultural prominence. This is not leftist indoctrination, as right-wing cranks assert, but a generational shift as groups, who were previously terrified of speaking out, have gained just enough social standing to do so. “That said, understandable private feelings are quite different from defensible public statements. And Twitter, where cynical outrage takes precedence over resolution and equanimity, might just be the worst possible place to work out childhood and generational traumas, even if it's become a socially acceptable one among a certain milieu.” This explains a prominent poster from the message board up north who more than a few times opened a vein about their childhood experiences. |
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Post by lcjjdnh on Aug 21, 2018 20:22:35 GMT
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Post by xanadu on Dec 5, 2018 20:24:24 GMT
This isn't about the NYT failing but rather Big Tuna failing because of those millennials. I eat it straight from the can too. www.nytimes.com/2018/12/03/business/canned-tuna-millennials.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&fbclid=IwAR0GPpbm4LFNHq57VNfgk-7JDRAggkHvzig844C2NE4t0tQKzXXK5fOCb60Why are we suddenly talking about canned tuna and millennials? The Wall Street Journal reported on Sunday that overall consumption of the packaged fish has declined by more than 40 percent in the United States over the last three decades, according to the Department of Agriculture. Among the reasons that people are less inclined to reach for a can of Bumble Bee: It isn’t convenient enough for younger consumers. Many people “can’t be bothered to open and drain the cans, or fetch utensils and dishes to eat the tuna,” The Journal reported. But the rationale that cut hardest, it seems, was a quotation from a vice president for marketing and innovation for StarKist, one of the big three tuna purveyors. “A lot of millennials don’t even own can openers,” he said. This explanation did not smell right to many on Twitter.  |
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Post by Da Man on Dec 5, 2018 20:56:08 GMT
Sorry, Charlie.
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