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Post by Whitman on Nov 16, 2020 21:02:05 GMT
You guys remember LTL? Miss that guy. Yes. He's still Facebook active. |
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Post by TyWebb on Nov 16, 2020 21:03:46 GMT
You guys remember LTL? Miss that guy. Yes. He's still Facebook active. You need to embrace your inner salesman and drag him back here kicking and screaming. |
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Post by Wolfenstein on Nov 16, 2020 21:03:47 GMT
Is there anyone here you would actually admit to liking? Yes? No? Maybe so? |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2020 21:06:02 GMT
I’d love to see a meaningful, bipartsan infrastructure bill.
A plan really, becuase it is a complex issue that will not be resolved with a single bill or in a single election cycle.
the rest of those issues are going to pave the way to a big GOP rebound in 2022 and 2024.
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Post by Whitman on Nov 16, 2020 21:06:15 GMT
Yes. He's still Facebook active. You need to embrace your inner salesman and drag him back here kicking and screaming. Xan/Songbird is the other one we lost. He's the one regular who went back to the old joint. |
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Post by TyWebb on Nov 16, 2020 21:06:16 GMT
Is there anyone here you would actually admit to liking? Yes? No? Maybe so? Well I like ya, especially when you aren't trying so hard to be so dislikable. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2020 21:08:11 GMT
Should this pass, I shall promptly sue to make it retroactive 10+ years so I can get my money back, too.
On the other hand, if people would send their kids to community college for the first two years, they wouldn't have such a problem paying for it.
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Post by TyWebb on Nov 16, 2020 21:08:36 GMT
You need to embrace your inner salesman and drag him back here kicking and screaming. Xan/Songbird is the other one we lost. He's the one regular who went back to the old joint. Yeah would be nice to get him back, too. I guess I can understand going back to SJ because there are more people there and more convos about sports. But there is also more people like heyabbot, starman and doc holliday. But we both share oop! So we both have that going for us! |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2020 21:09:54 GMT
Should this pass, I shall promptly sue to make it retroactive 10+ years so I can get my money back, too. On the other hand, if people would send their kids to community college for the first two years, they wouldn't have such a problem paying for it. That is part of the reason this won’t work. It will lead to more people overbuying RE: higher ed and will drive up costs. |
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Post by YankeeFan on Nov 16, 2020 21:12:30 GMT
This is back in the news in a big way. Schumer is suggesting that Biden could wife out $50,000 in student debt per student, with an executive order. Liberal Dems politicians are all in on it. I think it's a terrible idea, that will cost Dems politically. It also doesn't actually solve any problems. It doesn’t solve any problems and would be bad for them politically??? Lolololololololololololol Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha Lololololololololol If it's a one time deal, for people with current student debt, then I don't see how that solves the structural problem. If a college degree isn't worth the cost, that's a problem, especially if we (as a society) are pushing more and more kids to go to college, and take out loans to do it. And, yes, I think working class voters -- of all races -- will continue to move to the Republican Party if we bail out liberal, white, college grads, who can't pay of the loans they took out to get their gender studies degree. It will be especially bad if this is done via executive order, and in sone before a COVID relief package is done. |
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Post by frantic on Nov 16, 2020 21:14:56 GMT
I'm all for it. $50k off my debt would bring mine down to a manageable level where I could pay it off in a few years instead of just paying the interest. I have comparably low debt for a law school grad and yet working mostly in public interest jobs has made it difficult to make any headway.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 16, 2020 21:16:37 GMT
I'm all for it. $50k off my debt would bring mine down to a manageable level where I could pay it off in a few years instead of just paying the interest. I have comparably low debt for a law school grad and yet working mostly in public interest jobs has made it difficult to make any headway. How much money is in the endowment of the law school you attended?
They should pay it back to you.
I shouldn't.
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Post by Dr Boom 70 on Nov 16, 2020 21:29:22 GMT
You need to embrace your inner salesman and drag him back here kicking and screaming. Xan/Songbird is the other one we lost. He's the one regular who went back to the old joint. Obviously he's welcome but can't imagine that Xan/ Jailbird would ever show his face here again
after his embarrassing tenure as NIAFL baseball commissioner. What made it worse is that everyone
was willing to cut him some slack but he refused to back down. In the end he was left with a league
with no members.
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Post by JC on Nov 17, 2020 0:01:08 GMT
Xan/Songbird is the other one we lost. He's the one regular who went back to the old joint. Obviously he's welcome but can't imagine that Xan/ Jailbird would ever show his face here again
after his embarrassing tenure as NIAFL baseball commissioner. What made it worse is that everyone
was willing to cut him some slack but he refused to back down. In the end he was left with a league
with no members.
didn’t seem to care. He’s still kissing ass on both sites. |
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Post by batman on Nov 17, 2020 0:33:38 GMT
If it's a one time deal, for people with current student debt, then I don't see how that solves the structural problem. This.
I agree that college costs have gotten ridiculous. What I paid for four years of school in the mid-to-late 1990s at a mid-range state school would barely cover one year now. Something should be done about that. But if you simply forgive the debt, where is the cutoff on how retroactive it is? How is that fair to people who spent the last 10-20 years paying off their loans? Or to the people entering college in the next few years who won't fall under the same forgiveness? If it's a bridge to free college for all (which seems likely), then where is the incentive for the colleges to bring tuition under control? Government financing sure as hell isn't going to do it.
I'm sympathetic to the staggering amounts of debt today's students are racking up. I graduated with about $17,000 in loans to pay off and it took me 15 years. Can't even imagine having 10 times that amount to manage. But I'm also not sure wholesale forgiveness is a winning plan. Maybe if it was more tied in to public service, like a GI Bill or those programs they have for rural doctors, it'd be more palatable. The loans will be forgiven, but only if you spend a few years putting your degree to use in places of need.
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