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Post by doctorquant on Jan 2, 2024 21:27:48 GMT
Ah yes ... we retreat to our safe space.
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Post by dirtybird on Jan 2, 2024 21:30:12 GMT
I’m old enough to remember when Cancel Culture was bad. (What a very stupid thing in our times) I must be a lot older than you. I remember when being caught red-handed as a plagiarist was, for a scholar, "slink away in shame" material. I mean, you are older than me. And if this was just a straight up plagiarism, I definitely wouldn’t roll my eyes quite as hard as I am. (I feel like you were shrugging it off a minute ago? Or did something to pop up that I didn’t see?)
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Post by doctorquant on Jan 2, 2024 21:35:15 GMT
I didn't shrug it off ... I judged it based on what I knew. I know more now.
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Post by doctorquant on Jan 2, 2024 21:37:14 GMT
That said, time was when even the hint of such triggered resignations, etc.
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Post by YankeeFan on Jan 2, 2024 21:41:05 GMT
This is funny.
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Post by dirtybird on Jan 2, 2024 21:48:42 GMT
I’m old enough to remember when Cancel Culture was bad. (What a very stupid thing in our times) You really think this equates with that? At no time would a university president survive this. Cancel culture, to me, is more like when someone gets fired, or has their school acceptance revoked, because years earlier, when they were a teen, they used the “N-word” while singing along to a song, that was caught on video. Sure do. Were a senator and famous political operative trying to drive a conservative leader from a prominent conservative institution, I’d be hearing that phrase left and right. (I think you’re underrating what university presidents survive. Not what they should survive, but what they do) So if someone said the N-word in a less innocuous context, fine to pull the acceptance? Is it a pretty limited thing, then?
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Post by dirtybird on Jan 2, 2024 21:52:09 GMT
I didn't shrug it off ... I judged it based on what I knew. I know more now. Gotcha.
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Post by YankeeFan on Jan 2, 2024 21:59:18 GMT
LOL. Of course she is staying ion faculty.
She wasn’t going to “resign” resign.
Penn’s former President staying on faculty makes much more sense. Her failing was strictly as a leader. As the president.
Gay is a failure as academician.
She should not be able to stay on faculty, and Harvard has not come close to solving the problem of their own creation.
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Post by YankeeFan on Jan 2, 2024 22:04:51 GMT
He stole this idea — which is worse than just using words without proper attribution — from Joe Biden.
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Post by YankeeFan on Jan 2, 2024 22:06:59 GMT
How can a Harvard professor get away with this?
They still think the whole problem is mean right wingers.
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Post by Elderly man, very poor memory on Jan 2, 2024 22:21:01 GMT
"It is with a heavy heart ..." She even plagiarized the first six words of her resignation letter.
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Post by YankeeFan on Jan 2, 2024 23:20:55 GMT
What a fucking joke.
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Post by doctorquant on Jan 2, 2024 23:34:24 GMT
Like swallows to Capistrano ...
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Post by YankeeFan on Jan 3, 2024 0:12:07 GMT
"Academic plagiarism". LOL. What a tool. Also, what kind of dumb name is "Canon"? Doesn't even spell it the right way. Good H-Index though, at 21. Seven of Gay’s 17 published works have already been impacted by the scandal, but the new charges, which have not been previously reported, extend into an eighth: In a 2001 article, Gay lifts nearly half a page of material verbatim from another scholar, David Canon, a political science professor at the University of Wisconsin.That article, "The Effect of Minority Districts and Minority Representation on Political Participation in California," includes some of the most extreme and clear-cut cases of plagiarism yet. At one point, Gay borrows four sentences from Canon’s 1999 book, Race, Redistricting, and Representation: The Unintended Consequences of Black Majority Districts, without quotation marks and with only minor semantic tweaks. She does not cite Canon anywhere in or near the passage, though he does appear in the bibliography....Canon, like several of the scholars Gay has quoted without attribution, insisted that she had done nothing wrong."I am not at all concerned about the passages," Canon told the Washington Free Beacon. "This isn't even close to an example of academic plagiarism."freebeacon.com/campus/harvard-president-claudine-gay-hit-with-six-new-charges-of-plagiarism/
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Post by pallister on Jan 3, 2024 0:15:18 GMT
"Academic plagiarism". LOL. What a tool. Also, what kind of dumb name is "Canon"? Doesn't even spell it the right way. Good H-Index though, at 21. Seven of Gay’s 17 published works have already been impacted by the scandal, but the new charges, which have not been previously reported, extend into an eighth: In a 2001 article, Gay lifts nearly half a page of material verbatim from another scholar, David Canon, a political science professor at the University of Wisconsin.That article, "The Effect of Minority Districts and Minority Representation on Political Participation in California," includes some of the most extreme and clear-cut cases of plagiarism yet. At one point, Gay borrows four sentences from Canon’s 1999 book, Race, Redistricting, and Representation: The Unintended Consequences of Black Majority Districts, without quotation marks and with only minor semantic tweaks. She does not cite Canon anywhere in or near the passage, though he does appear in the bibliography....Canon, like several of the scholars Gay has quoted without attribution, insisted that she had done nothing wrong."I am not at all concerned about the passages," Canon told the Washington Free Beacon. "This isn't even close to an example of academic plagiarism."freebeacon.com/campus/harvard-president-claudine-gay-hit-with-six-new-charges-of-plagiarism/They don't want to lose a single reader, which is a significant percentage of their readership.
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